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Collector auction. What do you think of it ?

Collector auction. What do you think of it ?
Friday 07/12/2012, 14:18
Dr.Ido - Divinity English

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Collector auction. What do you think of it ?
Dr.Ido - Divinity - Clint StaffEnglish - Monday 10/12/2012, 15:49

We have a simple idea that we hope you'll like. Before moving forward on it, we'd like to know what you think.

Nowadays, we give away Collectors through the DT and the ELO tournament. We'd like to put 5 collector on the auction everyday, with a price starting at 1 clintz and no reserve price.

This way, the price of the Cr (especially of the top 5) would be set by the buyers instead of the sellers.
The number of Collector released in the economy would still be modest (half of what we release through the DT), so the impact on the economy would probably be modest at first.

Hopefully, after a few weeks (months ?) that the prices of the most expensive Cr would start to self regulate and reach more reasonable levels.

So that's the idea. Tell us what you think, either by posting in the board and/or by answering the survey here : http://www.urban-rivals.com/to/auctioncr/

edited by Goralion Monday 10/12/2012, 15:49
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LB_Abnormal - Titan - Limit Break English
Friday 07/12/2012, 22:57

No. New player's dont NEED them, It's just a goal to work towards. This whole "catering to new players" is something every MMO tries -- right before they implode as their playerbase leaves. See: WoW, runescape, SWTOR, etc. Every. Single. Game. That dumbs down their end game objective implodes. Why? because everybody who was working for, or achieved them, quits.

The only people who want this are people who think that owning big crs will mean a lot, without seeing that it would be meaningless if everybody has them

DONT. DO. THIS. This will destroy CRs, cause players to lose, Tank cr prices, Tank normal card prices, and cause the game as a whole to crash. Please, take an econ101 course or something.
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Tanto89 - Titan - X. LycurguS .X English
Friday 07/12/2012, 23:07

Of course people will say "this is a good idea" since it helps them to get a Cr that they might not be able to obtain with current price

BUT remember, you are not the person that gonna reap from this system. it is the rich
so, how much do you think Dj. Korr gonna cost? no, you will not get it for 100K, nor 1 million. yes, 1 million is huge for like 80-90% of EN player. those who can bid it is rich people, and mostly are French people

but I do like the idea because it removes so much clintz in the game straight away. it removes the inflation and vandalism of a card (destroying price of a card)
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0_4DPaladin - Veteran English
Saturday 08/12/2012, 00:17

Would be nice for the really old players to figure out new players aren't thier enemies. Getting the big 5 take an obscenely stupid amount of time to get, aside from getting top 100 in ELO every week your whole career. Its not like people want CRs to be 500 or so clintz, 1-4 mil isn't that hard to get... But 15 is off the scale.
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theKFCguy - Imperator - Great White North English
Saturday 08/12/2012, 00:33

Just leave the crs the way they are, stop trying to make it that people can acquiring them with ease. All this system does is caters to the rich players because if they can get a cr for cheap and sell them for a higher price this will result in them getting richer which translate into buying more crs for cheap from these auctions. For example if i were to bid 2-6 million for dj korr that means i can eliminate atleast 90 % of the pop who can't afford a million bid and if i were to win dj korr for about 6 million im making 9 million profit ( this is assuming that i get him for cheap) . Honestly if you want to have cr available to the public then offer them more as prizes or add some very diffcult mission that requires you to have all missions complete inorder to unlock the one cr mission. This mean the public is able to aquire these cards but it would require alot of time and effort. Also you can bring back the lottery which helps circulate these crs. There are other outlets that we can explore in trying to get those crs in circulation rather than just buying them.
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wasteroftime - Moderator - Open Casket English
Saturday 08/12/2012, 01:42

UR is now starting to run into the limits of a virtual economy that does not have an effective clintz sink/money dump.

this is not a good plan in my honest opinion. sellers do not set the price... it is always the buyers. whatever price is listed for a big card --- that is not the price of that card. the amount that the last one sold for the the price of the card that the market is willing to pay. you will always notice this when a Cr is listed really high.. then the sales/trade forum is all of a sudden flooded with trades/sales that are below the "market" price and they pretend they are offering a good deal.... when in reality, the ones on the market are listed very high and all lower ones have either been bought or expired

this system being proposed will simply get abused by the super rich. eventually i guess the plan of this is to flood the market with a ton of copies that you are hoping to crash the price of a given card. this is a dangerous game to play. you will either not release enough copies and you basically give the rich players more cards to hoard and then relist for a higher amount. or you flood the system with too many copies of a card that people dont want them out of fear of the price will just crash in the coming days/weeks.

you are far better off making an ENDLESS AMOUNT of Cr cards available in the shop. I.e. Listing say Kiki Cr for lets say 8 million.... and people can buy endless amounts of it... you will now drive the price of Kiki Cr down and there will be no way that any player or groups of players can attempt to monopolize that card.

another possibility is to simply limit the number of copies of cards that a player can have. We all know the super rich can hoard 100s and 100s of copies of cards, which 1)raises the value of that card --- good for them and 2)if and when the card goes Cr --- they make a killing and get even richer and more dominant in the market.

Limit us to say 100 copies of cards and we can no longer drive prices up to a ridiculous amount. This will also force us to release some of the cards we have hoarded --- this would drop the price down of many cards massively. Give us a month to drop are stock of cards from whatever number down to 100 if needed. Several people will feel really hurt by this... but in the long run that is the way to go i think. even the real world has anti-monopoly laws
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Mr Intelijent - Guru - D-Versified English
Saturday 08/12/2012, 02:32

CRs are supposed to be almost unobtainable with the vast majority of players never getting to own one and that's the way it should be. People don't need the big 5 in their collection and if they do aquire them it should be through hard work and dedication. There's a famous saying that ' You should teach your children to be happy with what they have so later in life they will know the value of things not the price'. It's relevent to this, if you make these CRs easily available then every person will have one, they are rare and only for those who have proved that they have the right to own these. Anyone can get lucky and bid on them at the right time but for those who have spent years and everything they have to get a 16,000,000 card fair and square it would diminish all that they have done.

Leave CRs the way they are, this is coming from a person who doesn't own any card over 500k. People will always want things to be easy, most people in life just like to have things given them but for those people who like to get things because they deserve this would make all there hard work turn to nothing. There is nothing wrong with the CR price and to all those new players complaining about how hard they are to get, EARN IT like the rest of us.
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Gomla - Titan - Time Conquers All English
Saturday 08/12/2012, 02:57

Do people fail to realize that there are 5 a day with thousands of players going for those each day. It's pretty much like the DT system, instead of you forking over your time, you're forking over your cash.
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0_4DPaladin - Veteran English
Saturday 08/12/2012, 03:32

EARNING IT takes far too long. And since most rich players have a monopoly on all the high-end cards, I think its a good idea to make it so others can afford them. Earning a DJ Korr or Lyse Teria long ago was much, much easier than it is now due to inflation and the filthy rich taking control of the market.
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LB_Abnormal - Titan - Limit Break English
Saturday 08/12/2012, 06:37

I still don't get whats wrong with the rich having the wealth. Isn't that the way it's supposed to be? If you don't like the price - you don't have to buy it. It's not like you NEED them to play.

Leave CRs alone. They're rare and hard to obtain for a reason.
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DeepEnd - Imperator - Limit Break English
Saturday 08/12/2012, 06:48

"And since most rich players have a monopoly on all the high-end cards, I think its a good idea to make it so others can afford them. "

You cannot have monopoly on UR, since the supply is available to everybody - even on CR's (due DT/ELO/Events). If you are too lazy to save credits and buy packs instead of using market that does not mean the guy with 1000 of the card you desire has monopoly - he is just counting on you to be lazy and pay the price he is asking.

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