offline husky1 Novice  
Sunday 15/06/2008, 07:57

I read the locked thread there was no real reason what abuse. and if this is the case why cant the mods or admins hold some lottetries instead of completly getting rid of it.

offline Force Majeure Imperator Open Casket
Sunday 15/06/2008, 08:06

Basically..because of Massive Abuse..
fixing lotteries, rigging results, scamming, major profit to the lottery holder which just basically translates to people taking advantage of other people's clintz..etc etc..

here are some reasons if you want to have a look at why it was decided to ban lotteries:

offline D0UBL3D Master  
Sunday 15/06/2008, 08:31

But there are good lotteries.
The essence of lotteries are the chance of winning a big prize for a small amount of money.
And the holder of lottery allways have a small profit.
"Real world"s lotteries are the same: small entry fee, big prize.
And admin can check lotteries so i dont know why have to close all the lotteries.smileysmiley
some example for good lotteries:

offline MAD DAWGz Hero  
Sunday 15/06/2008, 08:36

Wow didn see them be for exept the 1st one

offline breakpoint Hero  
Sunday 15/06/2008, 08:37

Well, maybe right now, it's good to ban all lotteries so everyone will be aware of it and know how serious lottery scamming is. maybe someday, they could lift the ban... only if people will agree to control their lotteries. smiley

offline husky1 Novice  
Sunday 15/06/2008, 08:39

I see is it not possible for the admins to hold some lotteries for collecter cards? there is already tournaments why not lotteries i think its a good idea.

offline Force Majeure Imperator Open Casket
Sunday 15/06/2008, 08:47

A ban is a ban..may it be good or bad or anything in between..all of it must go..we don't play favorites here and let a lottery be held by a player while others can't hold their own..

just imagine this situation for a second..

someone holds a very big lottery (let's say 500 tickets involved and hundreds of thousands of clintz too), of course we can't check all the players involved every now and then with the number of lotteries around specially if the lottery holder doesn't give us all the info..then at the end of it all, we bust it as a scam, imagine if this happened a couple of times per week, what more, lots of times..imagine how many angry players will protest, how many we need to resolve, how much time it will take to attend to one lottery much flood messages we'll get from angry players..etc etc..

"prevention is better than cure"
it's better that we just don't have it and avoid problems, than to have it and encounter such problems and abuses..

offline pl91 Master URBAN MADNESS
Sunday 15/06/2008, 10:06

Well as the other guy said if for example the prize is a tanaereva which costs about 20000 and the ticket prize is 400 who cares if the one that made it has 50 or 60 thousand clintz profit.this is not (in my personal opinion)scamming

offline ON_Ragnarok Titan  
Sunday 15/06/2008, 10:30

@ Husky1: You can think of the ELO tournament as a lottery smiley
You qualify by being in the top 100 at the end of the week. After that only luck can net you a CR smiley

offline CBleach Hero Bleach Aces
Sunday 15/06/2008, 10:31

Force Majeure raises an excellent point. It is a shame to see lotteries go though.The good ones are there but lotteries can be rigged so easily. For example, lottery holder takes money. Awards a partner the card as the prize. Partner gives back holder's card, then they split the money. It would be so hard to keep track of lottery scams.

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