offline Taxt1271 Imperator  
Tuesday 12/02/2013, 22:32

I will argue with anyone that she is. I'd also say she's their second or third best card overall after Sasha and maybe Dr. Falkenstien.

offline KitsuneKatsumi Imperator XiongDang
Thursday 14/02/2013, 00:34

We have plenty of empirical experience suggesting that 5*s that don't hurt your opponent harder than 5 (Haxx, Essie, Eryton, Nistarok, Miss Lulabee) or 6 unprotected damage (Lulabee, Serena, Selena, Stella, Miss Stella, Neil, Dwan, Fabio, Jimmy) don't get used in ELO.

The minimum for a playable ELO 5* seems to be: 5 damage with pill manipulation or poison, 6 damage protected by SOA or protection: damage (Lena, Maazk, Hawk) or 7 damage (several playable characters in this group such as Beeboy, Bodenpower, Havok, Sledg, Michael, Lizabth and Dorian).

7 seems to be a tipping point number. The typical 3* character played in ELO has 4 base damage- there are no 7/5 3*s, there are only 6/5 or worse 3*s. This means that the average character can only hit to 6. Hitting with 7 damage means your opponent is extremely unlikely to make up the difference by using a 3* character. The simplest winning strategy in ELO boils down to hitting with a 7+ damage character while negate your opponent's own characters that hits for 7+.

offline 0_The_Oracle Imperator Open Casket
Thursday 14/02/2013, 09:42

No 7/5 3*?? dayton...? 7/6 seems to be the norm now.... oxen, sunder, ngrath or even 8/5 shifou murray etc.

5 is absolutely terrible, but 6 is actually playable. lulabee is actually very doable with her SoB, id even say hefty is quite competitive.

but yes overall your point makes sense.

offline KitsuneKatsumi Imperator XiongDang
Thursday 14/02/2013, 10:22

BASE damage. The printed number. Not modified by ability or bonus.

I don't find Lulabee, Hefty or Tomas particularly worthwhile in ELO.

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