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Considered changes to the ELO banning system

Considered changes to the ELO banning system
Monday 23/09/2013, 16:31
Espectroscuro - Admin English

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Considered changes to the ELO banning system
Espectroscuro - Admin - Le p0tagerEnglish - Monday 23/09/2013, 16:32

Hi everyone,



We'd like to discuss the ELO system with you.

Over time, this particular game mode has undergone several changes that have largely proved to be successful. So this is where we are currently at:

- We’ve reached the point where there are almost 1,000 cards available in the format and in which "optimized" decks exist by mixing up clans. It would seem that "historic" cards (ones that are several years’ old) have an unchallenged place in decks that work well in ELO and, as a result, are greatly limiting the emergence of new deck types.

- The format has dramatically improved with the arrival of new clans and particularly new cards which mean that decks can be significantly improved (it is now possible to produce a proficient deck from each clan). By this, we’re not referring to stomp decks used to race to the top of the rankings, but rather to decks that work well in the ELO mode.

- More effective cards per clan also means greater possibilities of monoclan domination.

Our current aim is to give the ELO mode room to expand and evolve by adding a criterion to staff bans.

So this is what we propose to breathe new life into the ELO mode:

The age of cards will become an important factor in what we decide to ban from the ELO mode. The older a card is, the more it runs the risk of being banned. This will enable us to dislodge certain cards that have become fixtures in ELO decks and, in doing so, make way for new cards to emerge.

We will select between 0 and 4 cards per clan (at each wave of bans) which we can ban based on this criterion.

For example, let’s take a look at an All Stars deck that is currently very effective in ELO. Marina (2007), Jessie (2008 ) and Randy (2008 ) very often have a place in their star category. If we ban Marina and Randy, Nathan might find his place or would at least have the chance of doing so. In the same way, the presence of Uranus partly prevents the creation of a new reducer for the Sakrohm clan because of his dominance. Several cards may not seem worth considering because of their direct competition within the clan. However, we believe they could provide interesting alternatives (I'm thinking here of Leviatonn VS Klawz or Stalfhaust).

This new criterion of play would allow us to better manage the game's evolution. We would fix dates for new bans every X months, of course taking the time to first discuss this with the community, as we did with the last wave of bans.

Banned "historic" cards would then be definitively expelled from the ELO mode.



In short this new system would allow us to:
- Refresh the ELO mode on a regular basis by providing genuine renewal to the metagame.
- Give new character cards a chance to make their Mark on the game mode.
- Allow new deck types to emerge by combining the various clans without having to play/challenge certain unavoidable cards (by getting rid of “historic” cards, players would have more scope for creativity).
- Reduce the power of monoclans in the game mode.

Initially, each clan would not be affected in the same way but over time a real change in the mode’s playstyle could emerge.
Ultimately we feel these suggested changes will provide ELO devotees with yet more scope for discovery and enjoyment.

These are our proposals. We very much look forward to hearing any comments or suggestions you may have on them.

edited by Espectroscuro Monday 23/09/2013, 16:32
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0_AAR - Legend - E X C A L I B U R English
Monday 23/09/2013, 16:31

Good

xD
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-CALLOUS- - Event team - Limit Break English
Monday 23/09/2013, 16:34

Nitpicking- Uranus is a female and you said "HIS domination"
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babysama - Legend English
Monday 23/09/2013, 16:35

Great idea. Maybe there will finally be some diversity amongst high ranking players decks.
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Vinyl-Scratch - Titan - D-Versified English
Monday 23/09/2013, 16:41

This sounds like a bad idea. Elo bans should be based on power and not by age. The last thing needed for elo is more elo bans.
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glaedr180 - Legend - URBAN MADNESS English
Monday 23/09/2013, 16:44

I like the idea but feel like it would be better as a temporary thing like every other month or something to give the choice of those cards sometimes so they are still used
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Thoazol - Legend - Wise Men Distracted English
Monday 23/09/2013, 16:44

Assuming you're going to release at least a portion of the current permabans for the duration of this experiment, it's a good idea.
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HoA - Frozen - Imperator - Harbingers of Ares English
Monday 23/09/2013, 16:51

Na ELO is already rigged and hard.

This is gonna make it more harder. DONT
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Wakshaani - Legend English
Monday 23/09/2013, 16:52

I'd love to see ELO mode move in a way akin to Magic: the Gathering's state, where older cards can't be used. It'd make life easier for everyone if a blanket came down that said, for instance, all cards made before 2010 are banned, with room for staff bans/vote bands after that. Thus, you'd remove cards like DJ Korr Cr as well as Ogun, but you'd also have room to vote out Spyke, as examples.

I'd certainly support such a move, and it'd prod the grognards out there to move away from teh old styles and get with the new.
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Infiniti - Guru English
Monday 23/09/2013, 16:52

You could started doing themed bans again on top of weekly like once before

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