40enThu, 13 Sep 2012 14:48:55 GMTThu, 13 Sep 2012 14:48:55 GMT
I myself am a relatively new player. I was lucky enough to join at a time when you could make a decent amount of credits through free iPhone offers, and later, through video ads. This enabled me to create a collection large enough to experiment and succeed in ELO. What's more, it enabled me to create that collection through the very enjoyable act of popping open many packs of cards, as opposed to buying individual cards from the store. Now, I purchase credits regularly, as much to support UR as to expand my collection.

UR is a CCG. As CCG players, most of us enjoy some element of chance in the way we acquire cards. A player that's getting to open a pack or check to see if he won a great CR is, quite simply, having more fun than a player spinning the reels for what's likely to be a measly 30 clintz, or watching videos for hours just to make a dent in the price of a good card. Maybe as a seasoned player, it's a little harder to appreciate a 1/10,000 chance of getting a card that can buy you a good 75% of the collection, because you already have it... But thinking back to when I was a newbie, the tombola was a welcome sight for that reason, even though I was well aware that the odds were not in my favor.
]]>Thu, 13 Sep 2012 08:41:58 GMT What good would the Tombola have done to anyone new, unless they win it, which has got a 1:5,00,000 chance?
This way is better, where hundreds of players are benefitted, and new people feel that there's something to look up to, and have better prospects of growth as they move up.]]>Thu, 13 Sep 2012 01:41:25 GMT
Some numbers to think about:
10 tickets = 125 clintz
The cost of 1 ticket = 12.5 clintz
Estimates for slot machine payout vary widely, but from my own over 10k tickets and the estimates of others...
Payout roughly = 50-65% of the value of what you put into it in ticket costs

If I am not mistaken, with full guild bonus you get 3 free tickets a day, which is 1 full spin. Let's forget about the payout estimate for now since it's the least accurate number we have, and assume the payout is 100%! Even with this VERY generous estimate you ONLY get 37.5 free clintz per day.

Does the slot machine distribute clintz more evenly? Sure. Is it a significant source of income for anybody? If you ask me, no. Does it help new players? Again, if you ask me, no. Watching a single video produces about twice as much clintz as you get from your free daily tickets (keep in mind our estimate for that income was high.)

So, that sums up my issues with it. It doesn't do anything exciting or interesting. We don't know if the jackpot is even technically winnable. And it doesn't seem to contribute very much at all. ]]>Wed, 12 Sep 2012 20:08:04 GMTWed, 12 Sep 2012 16:51:00 GMT]]>Wed, 12 Sep 2012 16:13:32 GMTOscar heads come up on the last slot, usually all 3 in a row.]]>Wed, 12 Sep 2012 16:07:44 GMT]]>Wed, 12 Sep 2012 15:51:12 GMTOscar heads are in one reel

Btw it's not true that the slot machine pays out better. As I remember you could buy 10 tickets for 1000 (sorry if I'm mistaken), and if you played 10 different numbers you had guaranteed 100 clintz, so 10 clintz/ticket. I used hundreds of tickets in the slot machine and the avarage payout was always worse in big quantities.
The only pro in the slot machine is that you can use more than 25 tickets a day.

I wish there was an option to play masses of tickets at once, because it's way too boring to spin and spin and spin and wait for the reels to stop every time when you have too many tickets.]]>Wed, 12 Sep 2012 11:05:02 GMT and i find it more exciteing then the tombola as i can see the reels spin instead of just clicking on a ticket and i know i have a higher chance to win someting even if its small ]]>Wed, 12 Sep 2012 04:48:48 GMT
Furthermore, as the tombola provided more excitement, which is what we play games for... You could very well argue that it was more beneficial to all players. Look at it this way: Do we want a more even distribution of clintz, or do we want more excitement in the game?]]>Wed, 12 Sep 2012 04:28:21 GMT the only difference is there is no real cost except to log on once in a while

the slot machine is guaranteed clintz. but some get bitter cause their effort is rewarded with so little clintz... from my experience this it works out to less than 10 clintz per ticket you use.

the lottery is a dream.... our small effort is rewarded with a glimmer of hope of a big win. but the odds of winning is unlikely.

which one makes us feel happier.... well for people with clintz the lottery is nice
which one is actually more beneficial for the players who really need it... well the slot machine ofcourse.]]>Wed, 12 Sep 2012 03:45:01 GMT A relative newcomer could win the tombola and price a CR to sell ASAP, instead of going through all the bother of trying to get the best possible price. (A bird in the hand beats to in the bush, right?) That helped keep the CR prices down.]]>Wed, 12 Sep 2012 00:40:33 GMT
The problem is not with the number of players, but the players itself.

You remember the true purpose of this DT CRs, right? They are given out in order to give the "less fortunate players" a chance to stand up against the Uppers.

However, you mustn't forget an important factor, human greed. What if this new rich gets cocky with his wealth and starts persecuting the poor and new players?

In fact, I think that it's already happening now, just compare the prices of the cards today with the prices before the Crs are given out for free.

And if we put another expensive CR into the equation, it means that we will add one more nouveau riche.

But, what if the salvations never reached the sick people? What if the rich players get even stronger?]]>Tue, 11 Sep 2012 20:02:22 GMT
http://www.urban-rivals.com/game/rankings/?show=month&country=all&page=3259

there are around 81K players that play in this 1 months
add people like me who do not play, maybe you will get those 300-500K figure (or even less?)]]>Tue, 11 Sep 2012 19:03:59 GMT 24 mill? that number has little to no meaning
how many people that play at a time? maybe 10K-40K.
if you want to exaggerate it, maybe 100-200K on busy times
the rest? alt accounts or players that quit. it is a 6 years old online games after all, many comes and many goes

and then we can cut the number of people which below 30
I would assume it is more of 1 mill or at max 2 mill active players (or maybe only around 300K-500K)]]>Tue, 11 Sep 2012 16:53:23 GMT]]>Tue, 11 Sep 2012 16:30:51 GMT
From a story POV it makes perfect sense that a casino run by the Montana would have an "unattainable" jackpot. But when the slot machine was announced, it was presented as an opportunity for *more frequent* wins in somewhat smaller amounts. In addition to not being terribly exciting, I just feel it was/is a little misleading, as well...]]>Tue, 11 Sep 2012 11:17:33 GMT
It was probally more around a 1/300k chance if you used 1 ticket a 25/300k (1/12k) chance if you used all 25. Could be more could be less i don't know the exact chance. I was just saying it to point out how the chances on the slot machine is most likely higher.

Though I ammit I was a bit high and forgot to work out about if the players used all 25 of their own tickets. Im not that good at maths sorry ]]>Tue, 11 Sep 2012 00:49:33 GMT
UR currently has 24 430 386 players, and assume that 22 000 000 players are level 30+. Even with 25 tickets, what are the chances that you will win an expensive Cr?

Plus, with DTs giving out lots of CRs daily, won't the addition of another expensive Cr given out for free will affect the market? Who knows, maybe a lucky nouveau riche will get too overconfident and reckless, and start manipulating the market prices.]]>Tue, 11 Sep 2012 00:21:41 GMT