40enThu, 22 Nov 2012 01:48:23 GMTThu, 22 Nov 2012 01:48:23 GMTThu, 08 Nov 2012 00:31:20 GMT you said a 6 year old child, i think i could win 1/20 or 30
maybe a very skilled player can win 1/10 or even more

i also said it was very unlikely
i should correct myself, very very unlikely

but this is a pointless discussion cause the ppl m-bison faced didnt used those decks.]]>Wed, 07 Nov 2012 16:07:32 GMT
Are you really so crazy to think that 4 Baba 4 Puff can beat 8 Askai? maybe once in 100 times
I laughed]]>Wed, 07 Nov 2012 02:33:59 GMT
Jungo gap is significantly weakened by SoB. If SoB clans had a few more round-winners (as I suggested in an earlier rant) Askai decks would not be running wild. As it is, a SoB half deck makes Jungo much less dangerous.

Beeboy and co. don't do so well against the steadily growing army of heavy Pussycat DR. Copying Pussycat bonus is not something Beeboy ever wants to do, and both his and Blaaster's damage is pretty unimpressive when facing a good Pussycat half-deck.

I feel like the trick to ELO is to figure out what the good players are running around Thursday or so -- it will either be power decks with unbanned cards or decks that counter them. Then try to build a deck that counters the power decks AND the counter decks. Simple, right?
]]>Wed, 07 Nov 2012 01:36:56 GMTBaba 4 Puff?

i just meant that its possible, not very likely xD

on the op card thingy:

i agree with ghelas, you need to work around those cards, its certainly possible, just like you had/have to work around soa clans. put 1 or 2 stop cards in, or make a deck thats good vs soa by itself, or face the disadvantages

people call Askai/Troompah op, but they werent used as much before Jean came out.
same thing with blaaster , till Beeboy came.
my point is, individually, cards are not op, clans are op.]]>Tue, 06 Nov 2012 23:17:46 GMTTyd 4 Hawkins? Then the next challenger comes with 8 Askai, take it]]>Tue, 06 Nov 2012 23:11:07 GMT
no , that's 24 stars]]>Tue, 06 Nov 2012 20:29:10 GMTHawkins ]]>Tue, 06 Nov 2012 20:02:50 GMTTue, 06 Nov 2012 19:27:43 GMT
http://www.urban-rivals.com/community/forum/?mode=viewsubject&subject_page=2&id_subject=2204283

so all together I got what you mean:

don't complain about OP cards, let's complain about the whole clan!

Funny!]]>Tue, 06 Nov 2012 08:55:54 GMT he fought any deck with his 20* Piranas deck?

Are you kidding us? Even a 6 year old child can beat his poor Piranas with 8 Jackie Cr.]]>Sat, 03 Nov 2012 14:48:12 GMTELO and not say anything...

@Subclavian: Hah! That clears things up a bit!

@Anderson/everyone else: Sorry, I am probably beating a dead horse at this point. Maybe we can take this thread into a new direction, or start another. I would love to see more discussion on decks and playstyles that aren't "the same old thing."]]>Sat, 03 Nov 2012 14:43:30 GMTSat, 03 Nov 2012 13:17:30 GMTSat, 03 Nov 2012 07:34:44 GMT
lol, I think M-bison played a trick on both of ya His challenge was a bit tongue-in-cheek, and most of his challengers were playing for fun. I distinctively remember using a 10* preevo Pcat deck made entirely out of wandas against him in that challenge ]]>Sat, 03 Nov 2012 07:08:44 GMT
newer player - perceives that elo is good/bad. bases opinion on experience on current system
veteran player - perceives that current elo is better/worse. bases opinion on experience with current system in comparison to previous systems

are either opinions wrong?? well.. no, not really. but only the second player is in a position to have an informed opinion on how the new compares to the old.

the two perceptions cannot really be compared since both are based on different sets of information.

does elo require luck and skill... ofcourse it does. can we all have opinions on how much luck and skill is needed... well ofcourse we can.

is there a point in discussing another player's perception of the luck-skill balance/ratio of the current system in comparison to the older systems if the people in the discussion do not both have experience in the older and newer systems... well no, it would be a waste of time since]]>Sat, 03 Nov 2012 06:16:03 GMTSat, 03 Nov 2012 06:11:42 GMTElo players hence the endless hours the spend a week playing this game.]]>Sat, 03 Nov 2012 04:57:18 GMTAskai over Kalindra because Jungo is overall much more stable?)

Not sure about that Sylth though... His min is lower than Azel's, and he is in a clan with a life gain bonus. Jungo have ridiculously good synergy with poison, because their bonus gap does not contribute to reaching a poison's min.]]>Sat, 03 Nov 2012 04:49:44 GMT I think M-Bison unintentionally played a great trick on you. Instead of explaining in detail, I invite you to play Rock-Paper-Scissors with 17 people, and try to win 15 of those games. You will see for yourself how completely inaccurate the comparison is.

The fact is that without a huge element of skill, a 15/17 series is just statistically impossible. UR allows for more than an RPS approach: if you have a good deck and playstyle, you can try to figure out the "safest" strong move -- that is, one that does not significantly reduce your chances for victory even if your opponent happens to read it pill-for-pill, but creates a significant advantage if it works as intended. Learning to play like that is the key to a Top 100 score without excessive grinding.]]>