<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss version="2.0"><channel><title><![CDATA[Urban-Rivals - Message Board - Strategy and Tactics: ELO Mode: Spyke could use an elo unban]]></title><link><![CDATA[http://www.urban-rivals.com/community/forum/?mode=viewsubject&id_subject=2260727&language=2]]></link><description><![CDATA[Urban Rivals, fight, level up, trade.]]></description><ttl>40</ttl><language>en</language><lastBuildDate>Wed, 26 Dec 2012 04:49:44 GMT</lastBuildDate><item><title><![CDATA[Shanks Miagi]]></title><pubDate>Wed, 26 Dec 2012 04:49:44 GMT</pubDate><description><![CDATA[<a href="http://www.urban-rivals.com/characters/?id_perso=912" class="characterLink characterID_912">Spyke</a> definitely deserves the ban, any card that people build a deck around (<a href="http://www.urban-rivals.com/characters/?id_perso=912" class="characterLink characterID_912">Spyke</a> <a href="http://www.urban-rivals.com/characters/?id_perso=627" class="characterLink characterID_627">Askai</a> kalinda <a href="http://www.urban-rivals.com/characters/?id_perso=1007" class="characterLink characterID_1007">Beeboy</a> ect ect..) doesn't need to be in <a href="http://www.urban-rivals.com/game/rules.php?show=elo">ELO</a> , he is quite easily a game changer with his ability, simply being in your hand opponents are likely to over pill vs his looming threat, and even vs soa hes a solid 7 power.]]></description><guid><![CDATA[http://www.urban-rivals.com/community/forum/?mode=viewsubject&id_subject=2260727&language=2]]></guid><author><![CDATA[no-reply@urban-rivals.com (Shanks Miagi)]]></author><comments><![CDATA[http://www.urban-rivals.com/community/forum/?mode=viewsubject&id_subject=2260727&language=2]]></comments></item><item><title><![CDATA[OC-Vanity]]></title><pubDate>Tue, 25 Dec 2012 03:41:16 GMT</pubDate><description><![CDATA[I basically reread the title of the entire thread as &amp;quot;I'm bad at strategy and need an easy answer to everything&amp;quot;]]></description><guid><![CDATA[http://www.urban-rivals.com/community/forum/?mode=viewsubject&id_subject=2260727&language=2]]></guid><author><![CDATA[no-reply@urban-rivals.com (OC-Vanity)]]></author><comments><![CDATA[http://www.urban-rivals.com/community/forum/?mode=viewsubject&id_subject=2260727&language=2]]></comments></item><item><title><![CDATA[0 the oracle]]></title><pubDate>Tue, 25 Dec 2012 03:33:02 GMT</pubDate><description><![CDATA[<a href="http://www.urban-rivals.com/characters/?id_perso=729" class="characterLink characterID_729">Ojibway</a> &amp;gt; <a href="http://www.urban-rivals.com/characters/?id_perso=561" class="characterLink characterID_561">Lou</a>... no one???<br />
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i think UR staff just forgot about <a href="http://www.urban-rivals.com/characters/?id_perso=561" class="characterLink characterID_561">Lou</a> even if shes unbanned i dont see her being op with 6 power]]></description><guid><![CDATA[http://www.urban-rivals.com/community/forum/?mode=viewsubject&id_subject=2260727&language=2]]></guid><author><![CDATA[no-reply@urban-rivals.com (0 the oracle)]]></author><comments><![CDATA[http://www.urban-rivals.com/community/forum/?mode=viewsubject&id_subject=2260727&language=2]]></comments></item><item><title><![CDATA[JO3SHMO]]></title><pubDate>Tue, 25 Dec 2012 01:47:11 GMT</pubDate><description><![CDATA[@Saintrl<br />
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<a HREF="http://www.urban-rivals.com/en/community/forum/?mode=viewsubject&amp;amp;forum_page=0&amp;amp;id_subject=2260252&amp;amp;subject_page=last#answers" target="_blank">http://www.urban-rivals.com/en/community/forum/?mode=viewsubject&amp;amp;forum_page=0&amp;amp;id_subject=2260252&amp;amp;subject_page=last#answers</a>]]></description><guid><![CDATA[http://www.urban-rivals.com/community/forum/?mode=viewsubject&id_subject=2260727&language=2]]></guid><author><![CDATA[no-reply@urban-rivals.com (JO3SHMO)]]></author><comments><![CDATA[http://www.urban-rivals.com/community/forum/?mode=viewsubject&id_subject=2260727&language=2]]></comments></item><item><title><![CDATA[Saintrl]]></title><pubDate>Mon, 24 Dec 2012 21:30:27 GMT</pubDate><description><![CDATA[@Filariel<br />
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Did you seriously just say that? Go back, look at the card, and then look at the permaban list.]]></description><guid><![CDATA[http://www.urban-rivals.com/community/forum/?mode=viewsubject&id_subject=2260727&language=2]]></guid><author><![CDATA[no-reply@urban-rivals.com (Saintrl)]]></author><comments><![CDATA[http://www.urban-rivals.com/community/forum/?mode=viewsubject&id_subject=2260727&language=2]]></comments></item><item><title><![CDATA[Filariel]]></title><pubDate>Mon, 24 Dec 2012 20:10:14 GMT</pubDate><description><![CDATA[Omg i can't believe <a href="http://www.urban-rivals.com/characters/?id_perso=303" class="characterLink characterID_303">Yookie</a> is permban <a class="clanLink clanID_29" href="/characters/list.php?show=29">Roots</a> will be no more a defensive clan but an attak manip one...kinda sad.]]></description><guid><![CDATA[http://www.urban-rivals.com/community/forum/?mode=viewsubject&id_subject=2260727&language=2]]></guid><author><![CDATA[no-reply@urban-rivals.com (Filariel)]]></author><comments><![CDATA[http://www.urban-rivals.com/community/forum/?mode=viewsubject&id_subject=2260727&language=2]]></comments></item><item><title><![CDATA[0_4DPaladin]]></title><pubDate>Mon, 24 Dec 2012 19:02:28 GMT</pubDate><description><![CDATA[I think I heard someone say its because of her 8 damage plus the clans DRs (<a href="http://www.urban-rivals.com/characters/?id_perso=512" class="characterLink characterID_512">Jeena</a>, <a href="http://www.urban-rivals.com/characters/?id_perso=303" class="characterLink characterID_303">Yookie</a>, <a href="http://www.urban-rivals.com/characters/?id_perso=560" class="characterLink characterID_560">Arno</a>...)<br />
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But 2 of the three got banned, so I don't know how much longer they can hide behind that excuse.]]></description><guid><![CDATA[http://www.urban-rivals.com/community/forum/?mode=viewsubject&id_subject=2260727&language=2]]></guid><author><![CDATA[no-reply@urban-rivals.com (0_4DPaladin)]]></author><comments><![CDATA[http://www.urban-rivals.com/community/forum/?mode=viewsubject&id_subject=2260727&language=2]]></comments></item><item><title><![CDATA[Saintrl]]></title><pubDate>Mon, 24 Dec 2012 17:11:32 GMT</pubDate><description><![CDATA[@0 ComeAtM<br />
I suspect the reason <a href="http://www.urban-rivals.com/characters/?id_perso=561" class="characterLink characterID_561">Lou</a> is still banned is because of all the +life cards that have been showing up in <a class="clanLink clanID_29" href="/characters/list.php?show=29">Roots</a> lately which still makes her dmg danherous even though the <a href="http://www.urban-rivals.com/game/rules.php?show=elo">ELO</a> life is now set to 14. This coupled with the fact that decks like a <a class="clanLink clanID_29" href="/characters/list.php?show=29">Roots</a>-<a class="clanLink clanID_43" href="/characters/list.php?show=43">Jungo</a> Hybrid would switch to <a href="http://www.urban-rivals.com/characters/?id_perso=561" class="characterLink characterID_561">Lou</a> when <a href="http://www.urban-rivals.com/characters/?id_perso=627" class="characterLink characterID_627">Askai</a> is banned probably is what's keeping her perma-banned in my opinion.]]></description><guid><![CDATA[http://www.urban-rivals.com/community/forum/?mode=viewsubject&id_subject=2260727&language=2]]></guid><author><![CDATA[no-reply@urban-rivals.com (Saintrl)]]></author><comments><![CDATA[http://www.urban-rivals.com/community/forum/?mode=viewsubject&id_subject=2260727&language=2]]></comments></item><item><title><![CDATA[visible_CAM]]></title><pubDate>Mon, 24 Dec 2012 12:12:26 GMT</pubDate><description><![CDATA[<a class="clanLink clanID_29" href="/characters/list.php?show=29">Roots</a> have better supporting cards then <a class="clanLink clanID_32" href="/characters/list.php?show=32">GHEIST</a>, therefore <a href="http://www.urban-rivals.com/characters/?id_perso=561" class="characterLink characterID_561">Lou</a> is more dangerous then <a href="http://www.urban-rivals.com/characters/?id_perso=260" class="characterLink characterID_260">XU52</a> - simple concept. But yes, as Frowns stated, her synergy is fantastic with her respective clan.]]></description><guid><![CDATA[http://www.urban-rivals.com/community/forum/?mode=viewsubject&id_subject=2260727&language=2]]></guid><author><![CDATA[no-reply@urban-rivals.com (visible_CAM)]]></author><comments><![CDATA[http://www.urban-rivals.com/community/forum/?mode=viewsubject&id_subject=2260727&language=2]]></comments></item><item><title><![CDATA[Frowns]]></title><pubDate>Mon, 24 Dec 2012 11:27:29 GMT</pubDate><description><![CDATA[I made my <a href="http://www.urban-rivals.com/game/rules.php?show=elo">ELO</a> record (mid 1300s) with mono <a class="clanLink clanID_46" href="/characters/list.php?show=46">Berzerk</a> during the time when <a href="http://www.urban-rivals.com/characters/?id_perso=912" class="characterLink characterID_912">Spyke</a> was allowed and to be honest, I felt kinda bad when I won a game by turning the match around with <a href="http://www.urban-rivals.com/characters/?id_perso=912" class="characterLink characterID_912">Spyke</a>. The fact that UR would combine -4 opp power min 4 with stats like 7/5 baffles me.<br />
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Some people have asked about <a href="http://www.urban-rivals.com/characters/?id_perso=561" class="characterLink characterID_561">Lou</a>. I believe the reason she was banned was her synergy with the many good 4 damage cards in <a class="clanLink clanID_29" href="/characters/list.php?show=29">Roots</a> in the days when <a href="http://www.urban-rivals.com/game/rules.php?show=elo">ELO</a> still had 12 life instead of 14.]]></description><guid><![CDATA[http://www.urban-rivals.com/community/forum/?mode=viewsubject&id_subject=2260727&language=2]]></guid><author><![CDATA[no-reply@urban-rivals.com (Frowns)]]></author><comments><![CDATA[http://www.urban-rivals.com/community/forum/?mode=viewsubject&id_subject=2260727&language=2]]></comments></item><item><title><![CDATA[Saintrl]]></title><pubDate>Sun, 23 Dec 2012 04:01:21 GMT</pubDate><description><![CDATA[# URHunter No bans whatsoever would break the game on many levels. No seriously it would.]]></description><guid><![CDATA[http://www.urban-rivals.com/community/forum/?mode=viewsubject&id_subject=2260727&language=2]]></guid><author><![CDATA[no-reply@urban-rivals.com (Saintrl)]]></author><comments><![CDATA[http://www.urban-rivals.com/community/forum/?mode=viewsubject&id_subject=2260727&language=2]]></comments></item><item><title><![CDATA[visible_CAM]]></title><pubDate>Sun, 23 Dec 2012 00:45:52 GMT</pubDate><description><![CDATA[I like the idea, but I think all perma bans should stay and all temp bans aloud - just to throw <a href="http://www.urban-rivals.com/game/rules.php?show=elo">ELO</a> into chaos <link href="http://s.ccdn.ur-img.com/css/sprites/smileys.css?v=1318423583" rel="stylesheet" type="text/css"/><br />
<span class="sprite-smileys mini1_happy iepng"></span>]]></description><guid><![CDATA[http://www.urban-rivals.com/community/forum/?mode=viewsubject&id_subject=2260727&language=2]]></guid><author><![CDATA[no-reply@urban-rivals.com (visible_CAM)]]></author><comments><![CDATA[http://www.urban-rivals.com/community/forum/?mode=viewsubject&id_subject=2260727&language=2]]></comments></item><item><title><![CDATA[URHunter]]></title><pubDate>Sun, 23 Dec 2012 00:09:46 GMT</pubDate><description><![CDATA[I think they should have a no-holds week every 2-3 month with no ban what so ever (or with just the minimum bans like general &amp;amp; jackie etc) to test the waters and see if anything is really too broken or meta warping.]]></description><guid><![CDATA[http://www.urban-rivals.com/community/forum/?mode=viewsubject&id_subject=2260727&language=2]]></guid><author><![CDATA[no-reply@urban-rivals.com (URHunter)]]></author><comments><![CDATA[http://www.urban-rivals.com/community/forum/?mode=viewsubject&id_subject=2260727&language=2]]></comments></item><item><title><![CDATA[visible_CAM]]></title><pubDate>Sat, 22 Dec 2012 22:48:26 GMT</pubDate><description><![CDATA[Not at all, <a href="http://www.urban-rivals.com/game/rules.php?show=elo">ELO</a> is completely SOA free <span class="sprite-smileys mini1_tongue iepng"></span>]]></description><guid><![CDATA[http://www.urban-rivals.com/community/forum/?mode=viewsubject&id_subject=2260727&language=2]]></guid><author><![CDATA[no-reply@urban-rivals.com (visible_CAM)]]></author><comments><![CDATA[http://www.urban-rivals.com/community/forum/?mode=viewsubject&id_subject=2260727&language=2]]></comments></item><item><title><![CDATA[JO3SHMO]]></title><pubDate>Sat, 22 Dec 2012 21:15:44 GMT</pubDate><description><![CDATA[Pfff, it's not like you see any of those kinds of cards in <a href="http://www.urban-rivals.com/game/rules.php?show=elo">ELO</a>. <span class="sprite-smileys mini1_biggrin iepng"></span>]]></description><guid><![CDATA[http://www.urban-rivals.com/community/forum/?mode=viewsubject&id_subject=2260727&language=2]]></guid><author><![CDATA[no-reply@urban-rivals.com (JO3SHMO)]]></author><comments><![CDATA[http://www.urban-rivals.com/community/forum/?mode=viewsubject&id_subject=2260727&language=2]]></comments></item><item><title><![CDATA[ghelas]]></title><pubDate>Sat, 22 Dec 2012 19:50:37 GMT</pubDate><description><![CDATA[If you think <a href="http://www.urban-rivals.com/characters/?id_perso=554" class="characterLink characterID_554">Nellie</a> is Spyke's equal, your math is way off. <span class="sprite-smileys mini1_tongue iepng"></span> Remember that <a href="http://www.urban-rivals.com/characters/?id_perso=554" class="characterLink characterID_554">Nellie</a> gains an advantage of 1 power, due to her min. So it's more accurate to say that she's about as good as <a href="http://www.urban-rivals.com/characters/?id_perso=912" class="characterLink characterID_912">Spyke</a> AS LONG AS she's not fighting SoB, SoA, attack manip, or high power.]]></description><guid><![CDATA[http://www.urban-rivals.com/community/forum/?mode=viewsubject&id_subject=2260727&language=2]]></guid><author><![CDATA[no-reply@urban-rivals.com (ghelas)]]></author><comments><![CDATA[http://www.urban-rivals.com/community/forum/?mode=viewsubject&id_subject=2260727&language=2]]></comments></item><item><title><![CDATA[Saintrl]]></title><pubDate>Sat, 22 Dec 2012 19:47:04 GMT</pubDate><description><![CDATA[@the oracle <a href="http://www.urban-rivals.com/characters/?id_perso=554" class="characterLink characterID_554">Nellie</a> is not weak necessarily to SoB. She's still a dangerous power manip even then, and SoA still means she'll force extra pills because of the bonus. Not to be underestimated like any other card. And I agree, Bezerk are still playable, they're just not very popular at the moment because most people focus on the sole fact that they actually have to use some strategy to win with that clan now that <a href="http://www.urban-rivals.com/characters/?id_perso=912" class="characterLink characterID_912">Spyke</a> is gone.]]></description><guid><![CDATA[http://www.urban-rivals.com/community/forum/?mode=viewsubject&id_subject=2260727&language=2]]></guid><author><![CDATA[no-reply@urban-rivals.com (Saintrl)]]></author><comments><![CDATA[http://www.urban-rivals.com/community/forum/?mode=viewsubject&id_subject=2260727&language=2]]></comments></item><item><title><![CDATA[0 the oracle]]></title><pubDate>Sat, 22 Dec 2012 14:40:54 GMT</pubDate><description><![CDATA[Lol <a href="http://www.urban-rivals.com/characters/?id_perso=554" class="characterLink characterID_554">Nellie</a> is weak to both SoA AND SoB. <br />
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look back to my original post if <a href="http://www.urban-rivals.com/characters/?id_perso=912" class="characterLink characterID_912">Spyke</a> should be considered being unbanned then SOSHOULD A LOT OF CARDS.<br />
point is he is not the first to be considered getting unbanned, and as people are saying berserk can still make a doable half deck.]]></description><guid><![CDATA[http://www.urban-rivals.com/community/forum/?mode=viewsubject&id_subject=2260727&language=2]]></guid><author><![CDATA[no-reply@urban-rivals.com (0 the oracle)]]></author><comments><![CDATA[http://www.urban-rivals.com/community/forum/?mode=viewsubject&id_subject=2260727&language=2]]></comments></item><item><title><![CDATA[JO3SHMO]]></title><pubDate>Sat, 22 Dec 2012 09:11:44 GMT</pubDate><description><![CDATA[<a href="http://www.urban-rivals.com/characters/?id_perso=554" class="characterLink characterID_554">Nellie</a> is good, no arguments there. <br />
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One key difference between the two cards straight up is that <a href="http://www.urban-rivals.com/characters/?id_perso=912" class="characterLink characterID_912">Spyke</a> is FAR less bonus reliant than <a href="http://www.urban-rivals.com/characters/?id_perso=554" class="characterLink characterID_554">Nellie</a> is. The 'mathematical combat advantage' only applies when <a href="http://www.urban-rivals.com/characters/?id_perso=554" class="characterLink characterID_554">Nellie</a> has her bonus intact. <br />
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I'll let someone else spend 15 minutes pointing out every single difference between the cards. Obviously there are a number of them. <span class="sprite-smileys mini1_tongue iepng"></span>]]></description><guid><![CDATA[http://www.urban-rivals.com/community/forum/?mode=viewsubject&id_subject=2260727&language=2]]></guid><author><![CDATA[no-reply@urban-rivals.com (JO3SHMO)]]></author><comments><![CDATA[http://www.urban-rivals.com/community/forum/?mode=viewsubject&id_subject=2260727&language=2]]></comments></item><item><title><![CDATA[KitsuneKatsumi]]></title><pubDate>Sat, 22 Dec 2012 08:41:19 GMT</pubDate><description><![CDATA[@LB_Abnormal What you described as &amp;quot;not fun&amp;quot; - playing/ countering the top of the cardpool- is that metagame dimension of strategic play that I was refering to. You don't find it fun; I'd say that 80% of <a href="http://www.urban-rivals.com/game/rules.php?show=elo">ELO</a> players agree with you; and the developers have obliged you by banning said offenders of &amp;quot;fun.&amp;quot;<br />
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Did banning <a href="http://www.urban-rivals.com/characters/?id_perso=912" class="characterLink characterID_912">Spyke</a> open up more cards in the cardpool? Not really. Instead, banning him made his entire clan irrelevant. <a href="http://www.urban-rivals.com/characters/?id_perso=912" class="characterLink characterID_912">Spyke</a> gave characters like <a href="http://www.urban-rivals.com/characters/?id_perso=806" class="characterLink characterID_806">Herman</a> the chance to sign; he was an assassin for the cookie cutter characters that anyone knows after they've played 20 <a href="http://www.urban-rivals.com/game/rules.php?show=elo">ELO</a> matches. You could prepare for him; you could run him; but fairly often you were challenged to win a match when your opponent drew him and you did not. And if you found a way to win that match, that's the best feeling this game can give you. <br />
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It's funny for us to get excited about a 8/5 protection power/ damage when at the same time the developers have banned the reasons (<a href="http://www.urban-rivals.com/characters/?id_perso=912" class="characterLink characterID_912">Spyke</a>, <a href="http://www.urban-rivals.com/characters/?id_perso=495" class="characterLink characterID_495">Olga</a>, <a href="http://www.urban-rivals.com/characters/?id_perso=502" class="characterLink characterID_502">Robb Cr</a>) you would be excited about these characters in the first place.<br />
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In short, I find it more fun when occasionally I had to consider playing or countering the men colored red, of being on the right or wrong side of a 7-4 difference in power. Now? Red men are a waste in my virtual collection.<br />
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I also find it funny that <a href="http://www.urban-rivals.com/characters/?id_perso=912" class="characterLink characterID_912">Spyke</a> was such a red bullseye when <a href="http://www.urban-rivals.com/characters/?id_perso=554" class="characterLink characterID_554">Nellie</a>, who is nearly never banned, offers mathematically the same combat advantage and only 1 less gap. There are few matchup differences between <a href="http://www.urban-rivals.com/characters/?id_perso=912" class="characterLink characterID_912">Spyke</a> and <a href="http://www.urban-rivals.com/characters/?id_perso=554" class="characterLink characterID_554">Nellie</a>.]]></description><guid><![CDATA[http://www.urban-rivals.com/community/forum/?mode=viewsubject&id_subject=2260727&language=2]]></guid><author><![CDATA[no-reply@urban-rivals.com (KitsuneKatsumi)]]></author><comments><![CDATA[http://www.urban-rivals.com/community/forum/?mode=viewsubject&id_subject=2260727&language=2]]></comments></item></channel></rss>