<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss version="2.0"><channel><title><![CDATA[Urban-Rivals - Message Board - Strategy and Tactics: ELO Mode: Weekly Summary]]></title><link><![CDATA[http://www.urban-rivals.com/community/forum/?mode=viewsubject&id_subject=2294194&language=2]]></link><description><![CDATA[Urban Rivals, fight, level up, trade.]]></description><ttl>40</ttl><language>en</language><lastBuildDate>Sun, 24 Feb 2013 09:33:15 GMT</lastBuildDate><item><title><![CDATA[Fotakou]]></title><pubDate>Sun, 24 Feb 2013 09:33:15 GMT</pubDate><description><![CDATA[On the luck-skill thing<br />
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First of all,I am talking about Tournament/ELO in LoL which means that its not so random based,especially when you pick champs. You pick first,you have a chance to either pick an op champ or you might even stay open and have a natural counter of your champ,on your lane. So unless we talk for completely random games,its not that much about luck<br />
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I am gonna say that I have to agree with you guys,basically since you are more experienced than me and I want to respect your scores. But still,I don't know if it's the way that the discussions go in these forums or something else,there is a shroud of mystery in deck building and how some games are won. Want my suggestion? Maybe someone could stream for 1-2 hours this Monday,explain a little bit about how he will build his deck with the bans,and then play for some time,discussing his choices in the various games. That will probably help a lot to clear many questions less experienced players like me have(how do the proz think,what do I do when I draw a shitty hand and how can I turn a game around)<br />
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They do the streaming think like everywhere,it would be a good idea to revive(cause I have seen some old videos on youtube) it again]]></description><guid><![CDATA[http://www.urban-rivals.com/community/forum/?mode=viewsubject&id_subject=2294194&language=2]]></guid><author><![CDATA[no-reply@urban-rivals.com (Fotakou)]]></author><comments><![CDATA[http://www.urban-rivals.com/community/forum/?mode=viewsubject&id_subject=2294194&language=2]]></comments></item><item><title><![CDATA[0 Nomi]]></title><pubDate>Sun, 24 Feb 2013 06:57:02 GMT</pubDate><description><![CDATA[Win or pay.<br />
Nice 1337 h4x t3ch, Katsumi.]]></description><guid><![CDATA[http://www.urban-rivals.com/community/forum/?mode=viewsubject&id_subject=2294194&language=2]]></guid><author><![CDATA[no-reply@urban-rivals.com (0 Nomi)]]></author><comments><![CDATA[http://www.urban-rivals.com/community/forum/?mode=viewsubject&id_subject=2294194&language=2]]></comments></item><item><title><![CDATA[KILLIC_X]]></title><pubDate>Sun, 24 Feb 2013 06:53:49 GMT</pubDate><description><![CDATA[WOP is win or pay]]></description><guid><![CDATA[http://www.urban-rivals.com/community/forum/?mode=viewsubject&id_subject=2294194&language=2]]></guid><author><![CDATA[no-reply@urban-rivals.com (KILLIC_X)]]></author><comments><![CDATA[http://www.urban-rivals.com/community/forum/?mode=viewsubject&id_subject=2294194&language=2]]></comments></item><item><title><![CDATA[BK-Stillborn]]></title><pubDate>Sat, 23 Feb 2013 22:56:40 GMT</pubDate><description><![CDATA[What does &amp;quot;WOP&amp;quot; means?]]></description><guid><![CDATA[http://www.urban-rivals.com/community/forum/?mode=viewsubject&id_subject=2294194&language=2]]></guid><author><![CDATA[no-reply@urban-rivals.com (BK-Stillborn)]]></author><comments><![CDATA[http://www.urban-rivals.com/community/forum/?mode=viewsubject&id_subject=2294194&language=2]]></comments></item><item><title><![CDATA[KitsuneKatsumi]]></title><pubDate>Sat, 23 Feb 2013 21:58:44 GMT</pubDate><description><![CDATA[Yes, I was thinking <a class="clanLink clanID_43" href="/characters/list.php?show=43">Jungo</a> as well as <a class="clanLink clanID_3" href="/characters/list.php?show=3">Montana</a>. <a href="http://www.urban-rivals.com/characters/?id_perso=461" class="characterLink characterID_461">Platinum</a> is super t3ch against <a class="clanLink clanID_3" href="/characters/list.php?show=3">Montana</a>: <a href="http://www.urban-rivals.com/characters/?id_perso=469" class="characterLink characterID_469">Prince Jr</a> and <a href="http://www.urban-rivals.com/characters/?id_perso=549" class="characterLink characterID_549">Oscar</a> need 3 pills to get to 8 power, 4 pills to actually get over 8 power. Their 7 power guys need 2 pills, and their 6 power guys need 3 pills. <a class="clanLink clanID_3" href="/characters/list.php?show=3">Montana</a> doesn't have good answers to <a href="http://www.urban-rivals.com/characters/?id_perso=461" class="characterLink characterID_461">Platinum</a>. This matchup is a good reason for using <a href="http://www.urban-rivals.com/characters/?id_perso=461" class="characterLink characterID_461">Platinum</a> over <a href="http://www.urban-rivals.com/characters/?id_perso=410" class="characterLink characterID_410">Z3r0 D34d</a> this week. Also, Z3r0 is debatably even worse in SOA mirror matches.]]></description><guid><![CDATA[http://www.urban-rivals.com/community/forum/?mode=viewsubject&id_subject=2294194&language=2]]></guid><author><![CDATA[no-reply@urban-rivals.com (KitsuneKatsumi)]]></author><comments><![CDATA[http://www.urban-rivals.com/community/forum/?mode=viewsubject&id_subject=2294194&language=2]]></comments></item><item><title><![CDATA[KitsuneKatsumi]]></title><pubDate>Sat, 23 Feb 2013 21:54:11 GMT</pubDate><description><![CDATA[Any suggestions?]]></description><guid><![CDATA[http://www.urban-rivals.com/community/forum/?mode=viewsubject&id_subject=2294194&language=2]]></guid><author><![CDATA[no-reply@urban-rivals.com (KitsuneKatsumi)]]></author><comments><![CDATA[http://www.urban-rivals.com/community/forum/?mode=viewsubject&id_subject=2294194&language=2]]></comments></item><item><title><![CDATA[KILLIC_X]]></title><pubDate>Sat, 23 Feb 2013 18:05:39 GMT</pubDate><description><![CDATA[Well your deck won me a 25k WOP thanks]]></description><guid><![CDATA[http://www.urban-rivals.com/community/forum/?mode=viewsubject&id_subject=2294194&language=2]]></guid><author><![CDATA[no-reply@urban-rivals.com (KILLIC_X)]]></author><comments><![CDATA[http://www.urban-rivals.com/community/forum/?mode=viewsubject&id_subject=2294194&language=2]]></comments></item><item><title><![CDATA[KitsuneKatsumi]]></title><pubDate>Sat, 23 Feb 2013 17:27:51 GMT</pubDate><description><![CDATA[I think a good way of thinking about UR is to think of probability rather than luck.<br />
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When I play a character and think about how many pills to put on the character, my thinking is: every pill I commit increases the chance of my character winning the round. How important is this winning this round to me winning the match? It's not an even increase. Most of the time, if you play a character with 1 pill, it is much more likely to win the round than 0 pills. 2 pills even better. And then generally you have diminishing returns beyond 2-3 pills. So you have to figure out how many pills you can spare, and then figure out what is the &amp;quot;sweet spot&amp;quot; to pill. For me this is a more effective and dependable approach than trying to guess my opponents' choices.]]></description><guid><![CDATA[http://www.urban-rivals.com/community/forum/?mode=viewsubject&id_subject=2294194&language=2]]></guid><author><![CDATA[no-reply@urban-rivals.com (KitsuneKatsumi)]]></author><comments><![CDATA[http://www.urban-rivals.com/community/forum/?mode=viewsubject&id_subject=2294194&language=2]]></comments></item><item><title><![CDATA[ghelas]]></title><pubDate>Sat, 23 Feb 2013 17:23:15 GMT</pubDate><description><![CDATA[@Fotakou: I've said this to many people before, but skill &amp;gt; luck in this game. How else do you explain that some people can make 1400+ on a regular basis and some start struggling in the 1200s, despite the fact that they both have the same cards? I would say that the latest bans and the introduction of powerful new cards have made this game more luck-based, which I don't like... Attack manip <a class="clanLink clanID_43" href="/characters/list.php?show=43">Jungo</a> seems pro until you run into <a class="clanLink clanID_29" href="/characters/list.php?show=29">Roots</a>, <a class="clanLink clanID_29" href="/characters/list.php?show=29">Roots</a> seem pro until you run into <a class="clanLink clanID_38" href="/characters/list.php?show=38">All Stars</a> and <a href="http://www.urban-rivals.com/characters/?id_perso=832" class="characterLink characterID_832">Karen</a>, <a class="clanLink clanID_38" href="/characters/list.php?show=38">All Stars</a> seem pretty pro until you get torn to shreds by SoB, and SoB seems pretty pro until someone reads your opener. <span class="sprite-smileys mini1_biggrin iepng"></span> But it's still much, much more skill than luck, and the consistency of high-rated players <a href="http://www.urban-rivals.com/game/rules.php?show=elo">ELO</a> scores shows that.<br />
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@Kitsune: Interesting deck. It's not bad in that you can ride the <a href="http://www.urban-rivals.com/characters/?id_perso=767" class="characterLink characterID_767">C Wing</a>/<a href="http://www.urban-rivals.com/characters/?id_perso=704" class="characterLink characterID_704">Wardom</a> combo all the way to 1300 by itself. <a href="http://www.urban-rivals.com/characters/?id_perso=461" class="characterLink characterID_461">Platinum</a> is an unorthodox choice, and I'm not sure I would give up the relative stability of <a href="http://www.urban-rivals.com/characters/?id_perso=410" class="characterLink characterID_410">Z3r0 D34d</a> for him. To his credit, he does a killer job against <a href="http://www.urban-rivals.com/characters/?id_perso=713" class="characterLink characterID_713">Buba</a> and <a href="http://www.urban-rivals.com/characters/?id_perso=917" class="characterLink characterID_917">Troompah</a>, who I've seen quite a bit of this week. <br />
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...I think I'm too old to understand what &amp;quot;t3ch&amp;quot; means. <span class="sprite-smileys mini1_sneer iepng"></span>]]></description><guid><![CDATA[http://www.urban-rivals.com/community/forum/?mode=viewsubject&id_subject=2294194&language=2]]></guid><author><![CDATA[no-reply@urban-rivals.com (ghelas)]]></author><comments><![CDATA[http://www.urban-rivals.com/community/forum/?mode=viewsubject&id_subject=2294194&language=2]]></comments></item><item><title><![CDATA[Joinone]]></title><pubDate>Sat, 23 Feb 2013 12:37:14 GMT</pubDate><description><![CDATA[Will you say LOL is 50% luck when matchmaking is random and there are good/bad teammates?<br />
Luck is of course a factor, but I won't over-value it.<br />
I think those games are partly similar since there is strategy involved. Drawing cards is random, but you play with what you have. You read what is going on on the field and decide what to do next. It requires a better understanding to be a better player.<br />
On the strategic level, UR might be a deeper game than all of those. Of course it's mechanically much simpler. Well if you enjoy beating people with better clicking mechanics, MOBA games and FPS are definitely more enjoyable. But if you enjoy something like poker, UR might be the better fit.<br />
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(Creating presets is a marketing sim :razz<span class="sprite-smileys mini1_happy iepng"></span>]]></description><guid><![CDATA[http://www.urban-rivals.com/community/forum/?mode=viewsubject&id_subject=2294194&language=2]]></guid><author><![CDATA[no-reply@urban-rivals.com (Joinone)]]></author><comments><![CDATA[http://www.urban-rivals.com/community/forum/?mode=viewsubject&id_subject=2294194&language=2]]></comments></item><item><title><![CDATA[Fotakou]]></title><pubDate>Sat, 23 Feb 2013 08:41:39 GMT</pubDate><description><![CDATA[Well people are bad. They want the decks of the pro's,they never use them and they upvote them. Or they end up using them,can't get near the <a href="http://www.urban-rivals.com/game/rules.php?show=elo">ELO</a> scores and they don't remove their votes. Being popular also seems to work as well on getting votes as well.<br />
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The bad thing with UR is that many players seem to think they are skilled or something while they forget that luck is like 50% or more in this game,from the moment you draw your hand,to the matchup,to the pilling moment where you can lose/win a round for 1 pill. That's not skill,that's just luck. Wanna feel skilled? Go try DOTA 2,LoL,HoN,CS or something with movement. Got money and feel lucky? Welcome to UR]]></description><guid><![CDATA[http://www.urban-rivals.com/community/forum/?mode=viewsubject&id_subject=2294194&language=2]]></guid><author><![CDATA[no-reply@urban-rivals.com (Fotakou)]]></author><comments><![CDATA[http://www.urban-rivals.com/community/forum/?mode=viewsubject&id_subject=2294194&language=2]]></comments></item><item><title><![CDATA[Joinone]]></title><pubDate>Sat, 23 Feb 2013 04:36:32 GMT</pubDate><description><![CDATA[I haven't seen anyone use <a href="http://www.urban-rivals.com/characters/?id_perso=1053" class="characterLink characterID_1053">Ksendra</a>, AT ALL, just a lot of <a href="http://www.urban-rivals.com/characters/?id_perso=260" class="characterLink characterID_260">XU52</a> <br />
The thing is, 4 star <a class="clanLink clanID_32" href="/characters/list.php?show=32">GHEIST</a> is a must for 2HKO decks. 6+ damage + <a href="http://www.urban-rivals.com/characters/?id_perso=260" class="characterLink characterID_260">XU52</a> or <a href="http://www.urban-rivals.com/characters/?id_perso=704" class="characterLink characterID_704">Wardom</a>, or 4 damage + 10. Losing this threat is kind of a loss. Again, you are running halves, different story.<br />
I think your deck works, not sure why so many downvotes though.<br />
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Here is my pussycat + <a class="clanLink clanID_40" href="/characters/list.php?show=40">Freaks</a>  fairly easy to use.  <br />
Match-ups are all fine I guess.<br />
<a HREF="http://www.urban-rivals.com/presets/?id_preset=2540760" target="_blank">http://www.urban-rivals.com/presets/?id_preset=2540760</a>]]></description><guid><![CDATA[http://www.urban-rivals.com/community/forum/?mode=viewsubject&id_subject=2294194&language=2]]></guid><author><![CDATA[no-reply@urban-rivals.com (Joinone)]]></author><comments><![CDATA[http://www.urban-rivals.com/community/forum/?mode=viewsubject&id_subject=2294194&language=2]]></comments></item><item><title><![CDATA[KitsuneKatsumi]]></title><pubDate>Fri, 22 Feb 2013 21:56:57 GMT</pubDate><description><![CDATA[Heavy <a class="clanLink clanID_3" href="/characters/list.php?show=3">Montana</a>, <a class="clanLink clanID_43" href="/characters/list.php?show=43">Jungo</a> and <a class="clanLink clanID_32" href="/characters/list.php?show=32">GHEIST</a> this week- not such a fun week to play, it's pretty easy to lose the match on turn 1 if you play poorly. I also saw a lot of FPC, strangely... I think those were by far the easiest wins for me this week. This is what I ended up using (<a class="clanLink clanID_32" href="/characters/list.php?show=32">GHEIST</a>/ <a class="clanLink clanID_45" href="/characters/list.php?show=45">Vortex</a>):<br />
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<a HREF="http://www.urban-rivals.com/en/presets/?id_preset=2540959" target="_blank">http://www.urban-rivals.com/en/presets/?id_preset=2540959</a><br />
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For whatever reason, <a class="clanLink clanID_32" href="/characters/list.php?show=32">GHEIST</a> is in a situation where their games are so much easier if they draw a 5*, and their 4* are pretty hard to use in this environment. What can I say, SOA goes well on anything but it's best on 5* and 3*.  I see no point in running <a class="clanLink clanID_32" href="/characters/list.php?show=32">GHEIST</a> mono. <a href="http://www.urban-rivals.com/characters/?id_perso=800" class="characterLink characterID_800">Elke</a>? Thanks but I'd rather take <a href="http://www.urban-rivals.com/characters/?id_perso=762" class="characterLink characterID_762">Cyb Lhia</a>.<br />
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<a href="http://www.urban-rivals.com/characters/?id_perso=1053" class="characterLink characterID_1053">Ksendra</a>- what can I say? When she came out I thought: she might be too good. Now I can definitely say that she is too good, and <a href="http://www.urban-rivals.com/characters/?id_perso=1053" class="characterLink characterID_1053">Ksendra</a>+<a href="http://www.urban-rivals.com/characters/?id_perso=423" class="characterLink characterID_423">Bristone</a>+<a href="http://www.urban-rivals.com/characters/?id_perso=409" class="characterLink characterID_409">Leviatonn</a>+[<a href="http://www.urban-rivals.com/characters/?id_perso=704" class="characterLink characterID_704">Wardom</a> or another 5*] is the core of <a class="clanLink clanID_32" href="/characters/list.php?show=32">GHEIST</a> right now. <br />
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<a href="http://www.urban-rivals.com/characters/?id_perso=1053" class="characterLink characterID_1053">Ksendra</a>: She's even MVP awesome in the <a class="clanLink clanID_32" href="/characters/list.php?show=32">GHEIST</a> mirror!<br />
<a href="http://www.urban-rivals.com/characters/?id_perso=704" class="characterLink characterID_704">Wardom</a>: Between <a href="http://www.urban-rivals.com/characters/?id_perso=423" class="characterLink characterID_423">Bristone</a> and <a href="http://www.urban-rivals.com/characters/?id_perso=1053" class="characterLink characterID_1053">Ksendra</a>, I often didn't even need to hit for 8. I just needed to hit for 5 and they can't win through the awesome <a class="clanLink clanID_32" href="/characters/list.php?show=32">GHEIST</a> DR.<br />
<a href="http://www.urban-rivals.com/characters/?id_perso=409" class="characterLink characterID_409">Leviatonn</a>: Invaluable against <a class="clanLink clanID_44" href="/characters/list.php?show=44">Skeelz</a>, brings on the pain and KOs for everyone.<br />
<a href="http://www.urban-rivals.com/characters/?id_perso=461" class="characterLink characterID_461">Platinum</a>: I found him t3ch for this week. Lots of 6 power characters out there. In one game, smashed <a href="http://www.urban-rivals.com/characters/?id_perso=972" class="characterLink characterID_972">Sammy</a> 44-44 (11 pills on <a href="http://www.urban-rivals.com/characters/?id_perso=972" class="characterLink characterID_972">Sammy</a>, 10 on Plantinum).<br />
<a href="http://www.urban-rivals.com/characters/?id_perso=767" class="characterLink characterID_767">C Wing</a>: I usually prefer <a href="http://www.urban-rivals.com/characters/?id_perso=761" class="characterLink characterID_761">Neloe</a> but I wanted his extra damage.<br />
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I love this preset, it's easy to play and your opponent has very little room for error. Maybe <a class="clanLink clanID_3" href="/characters/list.php?show=3">Montana</a> instead of <a class="clanLink clanID_45" href="/characters/list.php?show=45">Vortex</a> next time]]></description><guid><![CDATA[http://www.urban-rivals.com/community/forum/?mode=viewsubject&id_subject=2294194&language=2]]></guid><author><![CDATA[no-reply@urban-rivals.com (KitsuneKatsumi)]]></author><comments><![CDATA[http://www.urban-rivals.com/community/forum/?mode=viewsubject&id_subject=2294194&language=2]]></comments></item></channel></rss>