I really cant seem to get it Lamar Cr is the only staple 5* allstars got besides oyoh so if you want to use a 5* you totally lack freedom in your choice. Also his stats are far from too strong compare him to lou or fuzz or cliff ... He was propably overpowered 2 years ago when he got banned but by now hes not much more then an average 5* (he is strong, yes, but permaban worthy? I dont think so ... )
Id really appreciate if the staff could reconsider some of their old permabans in elo. As the metagame changes through new card releases the bans should change aswell.
Lamar cr doesnt deserve a ban, he should be on a level with copper. Often banned by the users, sometimes banned by the staff.
Lamar Cr will be a destroyer if removed from being perma-ban. Just look at situations, the All-Stars are one of the dominating clans in Elo even without Lamar Cr. What would happen if the collector card became ELO-playable? Could be worse. Just like you made Jackie Cr ELO-playable, too.
Lamar CRs a monster,I dread fighting him in T2 where I would have the straongest cards availble in a clan to use on him, his SOB combined with his guild bonus has better synergy aginanst most cards then one might think along with his mighty 8 damage and relative 8 power.
I think an easier argument can be made for smokey CR, as pirahanas have much better and star effective cards then him, yet he is perma-baned for whatever precieved reason (he is essentially on par with any of the other pirahan pill manip so I do not think that is a good reason)
Thank you deathbychips, couldnt have said it better myself
Smokey is banned for a similar reason as Kolos and Sylth --- to many hands will get decided by a guess. Guess wrong vs Kolos is more than likely a loss, guess wrong vs Sylth or Smokey and it is probably a loss
might as well do the other cards that tend to get mentioned in discussions like this
Wanda - 8/1 at 1 star
Leaders - on their own, wasnt such a big deal. But with the arrival of stronger cards, the boost they give these cards just gets even more dominating
Marco - 9/7 with +12 and 5/7 +12 vs SOA makes him more likely to get through than Copper.
Ratanah and Shakra - victims of being in such a great clan, neither are amazing in the same league as some of the other power houses
Striker - another victim of being a strong clan
Charlie - undeveloped play with other undeveloped cats was just stacking the other parts of the deck too much --- ive never had a problem with this kind of play -- if people want to spend clintz. But this gave richer players a clear advantage.
Weelee - his entry into ELO would make Ulu and instant monster of a clan in ELO when they already reign supreme in T2
You said the sentinel and all star halves you compared were pretty much the same strength. However the all star half costs about 150k more. By unbanning lamar you give the rich an advantage in playing a powerful half, that is on par with the sentinel and surpasses it against SOA.
@wasteroftime. Why do you think smokey was permabanned? You can mispill against smokey and still pull out a win. It is hard, but possible. This is also true of sigma, but she isn't permabanned. Why? partially do to being a cr. Smokey isn't cheap and his prices are just going to go up. Anyone that can afford him gets an advantage and elo is about a level playing field.
Sigma getting through is survivable due to the high min. Sylth isnt as easy to survive against if you let him through
Smokey has SOB to protect his ability, Sigma doesnt
Losing against and overpilled Smokey is fine. Losing to a bluffing Smokey isnt. Losing to Smokey when you yourself has overpilled is game over. Overpilling against a bluffing Smokey is more than likely game over
Sorry Smokey is by far a bigger threat than Sigma
I was happy to have Smokey in ELO, but i totally understand why staff banned him due to being one of the cards that can reduce matches to a simple guessing game
A few weeks ago, your argument might have worked about unbanning Smokey, but not anymore. Imagine a deck like this: Taljion, Puff, Scubb, Sting, Ulrich, Smokey Cr, Hawkins (Wait until he becomes Bonnie LD), Raeth. The massive pill manipulation and solid characters allows you to win 3 out of 4 rounds pretty easily. In that case, your never going to lose. The addition of Bonnie Ld, Puff, and Raeth through the recent New Bloods are definitely a sign that Smokey Cr will stay banned.
Sigma isn't permabanned because of SOA. She becomes just a 1 damage wall. Also, people don't really know how to use her to the fullest potential. She's kinda tricky.
I understand what Mr Viggz is saying but mate your making Sigma sound like Kiki Cr lol, she can do what any other decent posion card can, lock a game or be a good bluff. She couldn't do what Smokey Cr could because of the simple fact that Smokey Cr has SoB as a bonus and like it or not that plays a massive part on his ban.
SoB stops Ghiest's and Root's SoA which is Sakrohms biggest problem isn't it? Oh and isn't Sigma in Sakrohm?
I think that answers why she isn't banned and Smokey Cr is. Don't get me wrong there both used for different reasons but Sigma is so much more vulnerable compared to Smokey Cr.
Okay I will concede the point that smokey is better than sigma, but the point is being a cr gives the rich an unfair advantage making them more likely to be elo banned. Being in a strong clan, like death chips pointed out, also increases the likelihood of being banned and lamar is in a strong clan. Whether lamar himself is OP is questionable, but his strong clan and being a cr makes him a given when it comes to bans.