Hi, I am currently using this preset:
It seems to be a really good deck in my opinion, it does lack a DR, but piranas dont have one currently and with 3 supports, another clan isnt possible. But my main problem with the deck is SOA as ability. It does alot of damage to this deck and I am looking for ideas to improve its defence against it.
Deadeye is kind of like Coleridge (4/6, -3 power instead of +4 power). Deadeye is also a killer against Spyke, really much better in Spyke weeks than Ector or Coleridge. Like Coleridge you can play Deadeye last and you can also Fury him, which is not so good with Ector.
If you can take advantage of the fact that Deadeye ducks under quite a few - power characters, he's pretty valuable for bringing 6 damage to your crew.
@kitsune...its funny how you say hes goos vs Spyke...yeah fair enough but guess what he sucks vs Spyke's tag team of Elvis and melanie...not to mention also sucking vs 90% of the meta out there.
His only real strengths are high starred 7 powered cards...eg: Aylen which he can beat pill for pill...but even then you have to beat them PILL FOR PILL which is annoying
SOA/SOB all take its toll...'oh but this is easily avoidable'...fair enough...Dr's then 'again not so bad, one or two every hand'...fair enough....attk manip abilities (ill rule out power manip since hardly any cards drop him that low)...'well there aren't heaps of attk manip abilities'...maybe..then there's just cards with 8 (or more power) which stomp him down.....'oh wait thats the current meta'. Then you combine all these together and guess what...he sucks vs umm most cards in the game...damn!
Hell even if you see an Anita or similar coming what do you do with him...pill 2? pill 3? no your forced to pill like 5 minimum just to be sure
I would be very happy if someone spends Elvis on Deadeye.
a. 7 base power cards are the most common in ELO.
b. SOB takes care of the opposing bonus.
c. We can say there are 3 types of abilities: payload (increase damage, +/- pills, etc), dr/ defeat, and combat
d. Generally at 6 damage, we are close to matching the opposing card for the 1st and 2nd, so we only need to worry about characters with combat abilities
e. The most commonly played combat ability in ELO is - power, alot of which Deadeye dodges.
There is very little chance of large upside to Deadeye, but the same is true of Ector as well. It might be trite to say that one is better against DR and the other is better against - power, but what decides it for me is that any good preset has multiple answers to a 7 power character- that makes Ector the prey, and Deadeye the predator.
Here is a list of ELO legal -power min. 4 or higher characters with less than 8 power. It's a pretty good list. Deadeye is practically an all- stop against them.
The ones with 8 power:
Deadeye is not close to the best 3* Piranas, but he brings along 6 damage, and think of it this way: He's bad against Elvis- that's because he's a Piranas character. BUT he has even pill and damage advantage against Spyke and Robb Cr. That makes him very unique.
Deadeye getting much hate his synergy with ahkab,ector,coleridge not helping don't look at the card on its own look at it in your deck, coleridge better in this deck than raeth since he can be a threat with the above mentioned cards.
Anyway for closing thoughts i dislike mono clans they are always more predictable and less versatile, but sob bonus is great for mono and piranas are better out of the 2 sob clans for this i would call this my favourite mono clan, but if you look for sob halfdeck i always find nightmare better having damage reduce , can build as cheap as 10* decks with it has very strong cards artus edwin pan mawpin azael phyllis karrion.
Power is important so does dmg, what if it sometimes cost you 1 more pill to do 2 more dmg ? I take that deal
No Deadeye's problem isnt that he costs you one more pill, its that he sucks vs 90% of the meta
That list that you listed Kitsune, about 1/3 of them are never used...who uses Jerry or Maciej srsly?
another 1/4 are either 3* or below requiring you to 'guess' their pillz and attempt to beat it out by one
Yeah wow he may be good against the 5* and 4* fair point, but like i said theres 0 chance you will run into a hand packing more than one base 7 powered card with no support at all. If you manage to line him up perfectly against that card then props to you, and even the he still has to beat him by 1 pill
Deadeye makes you waste pillz, i hate cards like that...you cant just throw him out cause he isnt seen as a threat..hes seen as the piece of s**t he is and defensively there are other pirana cards who does that job 50x better
Wow maybe he can 'call bluffs' with a few pillz and win....yeah that WONT happen often and he'll be that piece of crap in your deck that you wish you didn't include
Seriously the only reason im aruging here because i dont want to see this guy get conned into using a card like Deadeye
If i was to use Piranas 3* itd go:
Ulrich (funny both are ELO banned)
Tyd for half/Taljion for mono
Andsom/Greesh (both have cons/pros)
As you can see id prefer the scariness of Andsom's pill manip or Greeshs' poison over Deadeye...hell i think some people would even argue usin Rhed first (i wouldnt but watevs)
You say he is good against the cards you listed which is only 34 btw (some of which Deadeye can't beat pill for pill) and from this alone you make him sound like a god. This is not the case there is 92 charicters with 8 power who can easily beat him. The 40 seven powered 2 stars who he has to spend atleast 1 pill extra on. The 78 lvl 3 seven powered cards who can beat him pill for pill atleast half the time. The 50+ cards who have + power that can take him on. 16 cards who can bring him down below his minimum and beat him.33 cards with + attack and 36 with - attack, all of which force him to pill atleast one to beat. 4 in some cases. 34 charicters with Soa who destroy him as well. But I mean apart from those few hundred cards he is very stable! Deadeye is a horrible card in comparrison to rival 3 stars and should just not be used, period.
I don't think Deadeye is godly. I think Deadeye is a niche character. I think he is a better niche character than Ector, who is a also niche character and who a lot of people wrongly think is good enough to be a standard character. Deadeye is not the worst 3* Piranas character like some people think, which is all I wanted to express. If you are deviating from the more obvious Piranas decks, it is worth considering downgrading Coleridge to Deadeye since they are both 4/6 and Deadeye's ability is better in some situations than Coleridge's ability.
I don't think Deadeye is the worst 3 card in Piranas. I agree with wats_happenin however and do believe there are 7 better options. I am not a fan of Coleridge and would agree that Deadeye is better than him considering they have same stats, different ability and star count. I get you want to make Deadeye sound more appealing because he is a pretty decent card. But there many more better cards out.