The title says it all! Last election everyone's favorite ~11/8 was BANNED FROM ELO MODE!!!! (temporarily).
If you played Pilzken + Mono-Junta before the ban, what will you do? Will you sub in Raven? Ray? Or will you put in a smaller card and upgrade one you already used?
If you didn't play Pilzken + Mono-Junta, then feel free to call everyone who did a "noob", "idiot", or "scrub" (your choice) and say they should "Get out of your Urban Rivals". Feel free to blame them for the death of your aunt as well.
Have at it, folks!
He's 7 Power in an 8 Power (very common) , Power Manip heavy clan with bad DR , I don't understand that card or people who use it , he's obvious to see coming .
Naginata is good though, I don't like facing her.
And no, Pingerz , people can but they won't because it's an easier way of saying it.
To EVERYONE : It's like if someone describes Robb Cr to someone else. ' He's a virtual 10 / 4 ' is the easiest way of saying it.
How else would you like to say it? Say : ' He's a -3 and -2 power manip with 4 damage and 3 stars ' ? 'He is a -5 power 4 damage 3 star' . OR ' He's a 3 star virtual 10 / 4 ' All are complicated explanations and none are lying or misrepresenting the card. Unless you'd like to argue that he isn't always going to be -5 power so that's a misrepresentation?? Or perhaps saying he isn't a virtual 10 / 4 is wrong even though that IS what he essentially adds up to ? Or perhaps you want to say that he won't always be a -3 and -2 Power card because of SOA , SOB ? There are lots of ways to express how a card works when it's a -x power , but they're all wrong and they are all right.
I am completely aware that Pilzken does not have 11 power, which is why I have never described him as having 11 power. That is why I use the tilde, which signifies "this card has a combination of base power and power reduction that adds up to X". I expect this forum to be aware of the details of Pilzken's power reduction, which is why I didn't type into the OP "everyone's favorite card with base 7 power but has an ability that subtracts an increment of 1 power for every La Junta card in your hand but stops at 5". The magic of shorthand.
That being said, I'm actually dropping mono-Junta for the time being and trying out a new deck, deleted.
Soiuku, your elaborations aren't working in your favour. And was I complaining about people's ability to say it or people actually saying it? I'd say Pilzken is a 7/8 w/bonus and his ability is blah blah. E.G Robb Cr is, unapposed, a -5 power card. I don't care how people say what a cards ability is or whatever. In the end, base stats are not increased by - power abilities. Simple as that.
And how in any form are you being positive? You're contradicting opinions and fiercely backing your opinion just like the rest of us. That forms the basis of good debates, doesn't it?
How is it not correct to describe Robb Cr as a 3* 5/4 with his ability being -3 opp pwr min 4 and his bonus being -2 opp pwr min 1? That is the most ordinary and plausible description I can think of as it directly addresses what the card can do and what is on paper. I can't take this seriously anymore. lol.
Me ? I'm a very positive person I'd like to think. I rate peoples decks, I give them what advice I think might be able to help them , I make constructive threads that talk about ELO , I share my decks that I think have done moderately well also. I also try to respond to everyone even if only to say I agree with them.
Yes, disagreeing / debating is natural, I see no problem with me backing my opinions. I'm not hypocritical, you just don't read what I post well enough. See Robb Cr 's effect ? It WILL NOT always be that though , given Protection Power , cards with SOA , cards with SOB , so while your description is correct, it is still wrong. What if you draw him in a 3 /1 hand and he's the 1 ? There goes -2 power. Opponent SOA 's him and there goes -3 Power . That is only correct if you assume SOA , SOB , Protection Power aren't in the equation, so that's technically wrong too. Just like saying he's a virtual 10 / 4 is wrong, though when you add up his ability bonus and power it's 10 but it still isn't since he's reducing power . Or like saying he's a 5 / 4 who puts his opponents 2 power below him , which would be true , but in the end 11 and 10 and 9 power cards exist meaning that is also wrong.
Things can be right and wrong at the same time, it's called contradiction.
Once again to show what I mean : ' How is it not correct to describe Robb Cr as a 3* 5/4 with his ability being -3 opp pwr min 4 and his bonus being -2 opp pwr min 1? ' Simple, that is wrong because :
1 ) Robb Cr is not always 5/4 considering All Stars , COB , Low Power manips : Tula , Trish , Platinum , Oshitsune
2 ) Robb Cr only has -2 minimum 1 without SOB or with a clanmate in hand
3 ) Robb Cr only has -3 minimum 4 without SOA clans or SOA cards in opponents hand
4 ) Robb Cr can be DR'ed
What I'm saying is, lots of people describe cards different ways and there are multiple ways to say they are wrong, but it's best to let it slide when people bring up the ' Don't Describe -x power as BLANK or something. Because your descriptions can also be wrong.
Omg dude stop. It obviously varies depending on what your hand is and what you're up against. External factors aside, he's what I said he is. He's what Boostr said he is when they created him. He's what the general UR community regard him as. This is just getting too stupid, I'm out.