I've tidied up my proposed solution and changed the thread title to avoid confusion. I've also changed the name of the proposed idea to avoid bickering about tiers.
Solution - Limit System.
- Mark all considered overpowered cards (Toro, Rolph, Smokey Cr, Charlie, etc...) as 'Limited'.
- Add new stipulation to Elo deck build rules:
Your Deck can only contain X Limited cards.
- Limited cards would only be the cards that are considered too powerful. So some clans would not have any Limited cards at all.
- The limited list could rotate, or it could even be placed under player vote.
- This would stop decks being made up with the obvious cards, but would allow us to still play these cards in a limited capacity.
Discuss, feedback, and so on...
The previous thread can be found here: http://www.urban-rivals.com/community/forum/?mode=viewsubject&forum_page=0&id_subject=1529651&subject_page=0
Thank you to everyone who gave feedback.
If you're going to reply, you should add to the discussion. Give reasons to support what you say. Don't make a point without arguing for it, because people aren't likely to pay much attention to something like "No....Just no."
I don't think the staff is making a mistake with the bans, but there could be a better way to achieve the same effect. Players would still be forced to diversify the cards they use and create new combinations that work with the limited cards they choose.
We need a staff member to give input, or this idea probably won't become more than just that, an idea.
I think ELO could be kinda split into two things...
one like it used to be, maybe with this proposed idea
and one thats a more challenge of the week thing,
which the staff could tinker with as they see fit
that way the can ban random cards or random clans whenever
without everyone complaning, because theres the original ELO too
For ELO scores to be meaningful it needs to be the same for all..
you cant have speed chess scores and regular tournament chess scores and maintain the ability the compare them.
new formats are always possible... real life CCGs have created new formats to in order to rebalance the game/limit older cars/encourage the use of newer cards/ and overall continue to maintain the community's level of interest. If UR is to survive it needs to continue to change each time it starts to stagnate. DeathMatch was created. Lost Warehouse no pillz was recently created. ELO has been altered.
overtime these new changes will be seen as old and stagnant... new changes will happen... some will welcome it... some will complaint.... rinse and repeat, rinse and repeat.
I support the bans. it's to stop players from using the same old tired cards over, and over, and over, and over, and over - okay you get the idea. those resisting the bans are angry coz they can't man-stomp anymore and are pissed because they have no creativity in them?!? err. find ways to win. half the fun in TCG is deck building. i say ban more is what is needed. if rescue and roots are still overpowering, i say ban more.
let's not stop with the bans until only ataoualpet is left to fight for the roots.
don't you dare laugh! i use him in my elo deck
okay. point made.