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Vinyl-Scratch Titan D-Versified Friday 25/11/2011, 21:29

@Osorewhatever lol you fail so much. It does make elo boring, for the reason you have stated, it completely destoys clans and doesn't create any balance. How is it not boring to play in a format where clans are completely destroyed? Where the fun in playing in a format where cards continually get banned because of people and their moaning?

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FEAR_bleustx Titan Peenoise Republic Friday 25/11/2011, 21:41

@ 0 Andyman

Oops you're wrong, I rarely play AS. Me not talking about AS doesn't mean anything. I am sure that my list was incomplete and I'm completely aware of it. The clans that I have mentioned there were the clans, in my observation, that were rarely used in ELO nowadays. Plus the two newest clans, Berzerk and Vortex.

I agree with you that that 50+ list of bans is insane, that's why most, if not all of us, here are asking for the unbanning of other cards. However some cards that you have pointed out to be "fun cards", ehem Caelus CR, is way too overpowered and will never ever touch the ELO room again. Unless something weird happens.

@ DashingLove

I'm sorry to hear that. It seems that you're having a hard time these past few weeks, that you find UR boring? eh? try not using "fun cards" maybe you'll see some good results. you'll get atleast the vibe of playing once again in ELO. ROFL.

IMO this banning system allows a player to create decks more than the usual, which is really fun. Using cards that you thought you'll never use in ELO is enjoying, especially when you win. It's very rewarding whenever you hit your goal.

@Osore

"...banning simply bans card. disabling certain clans. giving way to others.
the stupid thing is the aggregation of bans on certain clan. Completely destroying it failing the word "balance".
Berzerk here is the perfect victim."

True to that. They were completely destroyed this week. Not a single speck of dust were left from this clan.

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Legacy PH Senior Face Everything And Rejoice Friday 25/11/2011, 22:24

@DashingLol...
you're not getting it. please refrain from being novice-like. read carefully please.
As I've said earlier(since somebody here has a prehistoric intellect of reading posts)
ELO bans don't destroy ELO. A lot of game aside Urban Rivals that utilizes an ELO system also has bans and restrictions in them. League of Legends. Although few urban rival players new that game. What more of novices. cough* cough* cough*

What I'm saying that destroys ELO is the players themselves voting...

Again to make it to make it simple for you to comprehend.

ELO bans are risky but cannot be totally remove.

PS: You not playing since you keep going something like "Ohhh. So many bans. My skills cannot adjust so I'll just stop playing. Anyway I could just tell it's boring." is in itself a form of moaning.

Better luck next time Dashingwhut?

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Legacy PH Senior Face Everything And Rejoice Friday 25/11/2011, 22:34

"How am I contradicting myself?"

Andyman answer = please my post read again carefully. (shees* a lot of people here have reading issues. two for the record )

All Stars? Top clan? You know. The word top is a very relative/unit dependent word(if you know what I mean:smirk
again. All Stars? Top clan? Try comparing All Stars to GHEIST. Try comparing All Stars to Rescue and Montana.
Which receive heavier bans? Which remained still dominant and kept the ELO message boards busy?
cough* cough* obvious* cough* cough*

Ok. Let's make it easy for you. I'll summarize my post to one sentence:
All Stars is not a top clan in ELO since the perma banning of Striker.
(veeery simple sentence.hope you clearly understand this now.:smile

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FEAR_bleustx Titan Peenoise Republic Friday 25/11/2011, 22:48

@0 Andyman

Oops, you’re wrong. I rarely play AS in ELO. I am aware that my list is incomplete and I’m certain that the purpose of my post is to give examples. The clans that I choose to post were the clans that I seldom see in ELO nowadays plus the two new ones, Vortex and Berzerk. I don’t see any bias for AS in my posts; I was just citing some examples.

Anyway, I completely agree with you that the 50+ ban list is insane. That’s why most, if not all, of us here are asking to unban certain cards, right? In fact it’s one of the purposes of this thread. This is very relevant since the perma list is old and new cards and abilities were introduced, hence some cards were balanced and needs some place in ELO.

@DashingLove

It’s just sad to hear that from you.

I think the purpose of banning (I’m referring to staff’s only) is for diversity. We are forced to use cards that we never thought to be using in ELO. Is it just me? Coz I find it really exciting, to create decks from cards that I rarely use. You should at least give it a try, it’s rewarding and not boring.

One thing that completely destroys ELO is the format election, just like what @Oraya is trying to point out. The bias of players against a card is magnified to its clan. Perfect example is Berzerk, this clan was completely wiped out this week. Sure Spyke is OP hence the ban but what the heck happened with Lola and Elvis?

UR should do something about this. Regulate the format elections.

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Legacy PH Senior Face Everything And Rejoice Friday 25/11/2011, 22:54

It's really funny how players cannot find it fun to play low tier cards. ranting on the bans of high tier cards they have..

A good reason is that maybe, they cannot make it out well with low tier cards.
But of course another reason is that there are still high tier cards out there. But then again there's the format election.
Haha, They're just going in circles... tsk tsk.

It's natural to ban the high tier "fun to play with" high tier cards. Since it benefits a good chunk of population. It doesn't necessarily promote players to not play anymore. Since there are still cards left, and Cr prizes to be won.

unless your a novice player. who lost hope in his talents in playing urban rivals. and simply stop playing anymore.

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Legacy PH Senior Face Everything And Rejoice Friday 25/11/2011, 23:22

"The bias of players against a card is magnified to its clan..."

This is the lesson of ELO for the week.

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Vinyl-Scratch Titan D-Versified Saturday 26/11/2011, 00:02

@osore stop being an idiot. It not a matter of being a novice or sucking. I just found elo more fun when there were less bans. Anything wrong with that? Nope. People have opinions and can find things bad without sucking at it. Really, are you so dumb that you don't get that?

@Fear Yeah agree but balance by bans will never be attained and the format election is just a way for noobs to gang up and ban cards that beat them but most of these format election bans turn into permi banned. Rowdy, he was good but doubt he made his clan overpowered. The format election and temp bans just make alot of people use cards that are commonly banned but not banned during the week.

It may have been like that before but it didn't weaken certain clans like it does now. Maybe it just me but I like each clan having an overpowered element, it one of the things that makes clans different. I loved using leaders, they were so fun to use.

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0 Anderson Imperator Time Conquers All Saturday 26/11/2011, 02:13

@ FEAR
I wasnt reffering to you, I was reffering to the majority of people who didnt mention AS

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Soundtrack-HW Imperator humanoid weapons Saturday 26/11/2011, 04:55

Could we get a mod to close this, moved way off of the original topic of deciding whether XXX deserves to be banned in elo.
(i didnt exactly read all the posts, coz they're too long and they all seem to be hating against each other)