It is amazing how my entire time in UR it is generally only the upper half (in terms of skill id say) of the UR community that have appreciated Roots.
even when they were completely dominant, their cards were dirt cheap... to this day they are cheap compared to other clans
Yookie, Rico, Noodile (before and after Cr even), Tuck, Flora, Treeman --- all these cards are great cards for the price when compared to other clans.
The reality is because Roots are a bit cagey to play with. They are tricky because Roots hands typically have more solutions on how to win a game.
What they lack right now is that 1 killer card that they will draw that swings the game heavily in their favour -- and this is what MANY players are looking for. they want to load up pillz on that one nuke and old their way through the other rounds. But thats not really how roots play (maybe at one point when they had Gertjan and Lou)
Gheist have always been in the game and the arrival of Dr. Ergo just makes them deadlier.
what have hurt both clans more is the arrival of more 8 power cards.
Nightmare and Piranas can stop the SoA of Roots and Gheist and I think the abilities of Nightmare and Piranas are better than those of Roots and Gheist. I think Nightmare is better than Roots and Gheist but versus other clans Roots and Gheist are better because of SoA.
Skeelz is rarely played, except Chiara/Plunk + Redra splash so I don't think that is a big problem.
Stop cards are also very rarely played. Flinch, Kyle, Cage Troy, Glosh and that's it.
Trust me, try out using Roots in Elo, they are difficult to get used to but once you do you tend to dominate. They problem with Roots and Ghiest is they get alot of stick from newer players because they dont have a bonus that help them win, but they are great at shutting you opponent down and using their abilities.
Its all about the play style and how you play the clan
UR has been trying to nerf GHEIST/Roots ever since the game started. STOP: cards didn't do it. Skeelz didn't do it, the SoB clans are pretty decent at it but now how do we nerf the SoB clans? Copy Bonus doesn't seem to do the trick well enough.
I think GHEIST and Roots are both pretty equal to other clans, now. Not nearly OP as they used to be, but still able to hold their own.
Since this thread is about whining over SOA, SOB clans, I'll say this:
Being a Rescue player (atm), if there's one thing that I truly HATE with a passion, it's the Piranas clan.
You may take away my Attack bonus, you may even take away my Pillz. But you're not taking away my FREEDOM!
Meh, As another Rescue player, tend to struggle with Roots and Hurrican more than Piranas. Hurrican have high stats and negate the Rescue bonus while Roots just plain overpower my cards.
(then again, I admit to use cards that are ability reliant like Joana, Gordan, or Dassone).