12/15

D3ath the Kid Guru   Monday 22/12/2014, 01:01

Lol Arlo thinks Im frustrated with ELO. The leaders are much more balanced, when I said "Not thta bad anymore" I meant that they were balanced, then he jumps straight to flaming.

And jeez, I played you a few times in ELO and can't recalling losing even once. So if we're gonna bring up the skill card... I know you enjoy just derp nuking with your 5 star, but some of us think it's rather lame.

13/15

TheOPG Imperator Casual Grind Monday 22/12/2014, 05:29

"derp nuking"

14/15

neo_08ms Master knights of oblivion Monday 22/12/2014, 06:26

Eyrik needs a higher min to go back to ELO.
Maybe min 7 or 8.
Hugo needs to lower that attack manipulation. He was already banned from ELO at +5, now imagine +7. Maybe +2 or +3...

Vholt has too low of a min at 2 to be allowed back in. Vholt at min of 2 makes Pussycatz a little too OP. Kind of giving a team boost back a free Clover, with that additional -3 damage (3 cards + Vholt).

Only card that can really be used in ELO without needing a nerf really is Timber but that's only kind of due to ELO having 14 life and Timber being stuck with only 6 power. If they do want to nerf him, at 6/7 he would be passable back into ELO too.
Only Leader that really could be used in ELO without a nerf is Timber.

15/15

Daxose Imperator URBAN MADNESS Monday 22/12/2014, 15:57

Eyrik needs a higher min to go back to ELO.
Maybe min 7 or 8.
Hugo needs to lower that attack manipulation. He was already banned from ELO at +5, now imagine +7. Maybe +2 or +3...

~~~~~

Eyrik with a minimum of 7 or 8 would make him, essentially, worthless. Eyrik with a min of 8 means only 9 power cards are reduced. So that makes, what, 5 cards? One of those cards is Bengal who can't be affected, so that makes a solid 4 cards that can be affected. A minimum of 7 and no one will use him, that means only 8 powered cards are affected.

Eyrik needs to stay banned.

Hugo had a +6 attack going for him. If it were +5 or lower then that's a different story, but his ability is, essentially, a free pill (similar to Morphun in a roundabout way).

The only leader worth playing in ELO is Ashigaru. And with that being said, he's not worth playing anywhere. I'd keep the leaders banned. Have players create a better deck and judge their skill by using said deck rather than a mono deck with a leader.

16/15

Arlo_OC Titan Open Casket Monday 22/12/2014, 17:57

It seems to me that you are frustrated with ELO when you submit a change for consideration that totally revamps the entire process. It would SEEM as though you want things to be different... which implies that you don't like the way things are.

It's not even an idea that would bring about your desired end-result. That's what makes it so ludicrous. Granted-- most people wouldn't have room for another 5* if they were using a leader, but there are plenty of Vermaire's and Konrad's out there that really don't need a leader to have their back.

Somebody with Eyrik throws out Konrad in the first round and you either gotta use like 9 pills against him or just hold. Which requires some minimal thinking, I guess, but more or less just nervous guessing. When your decision in a single round (the first round, particularly,) can mathematically lose the game for you I call that guessing. I call that a bad idea.

I mean there is a game mode that makes use of the style of play you're suggesting... you know what it is? Leaderwars bud. You're confusing "the leaders are balanced against eachother," with "the leaders were adjusted to fit ELO." Most of them were made STRONGER... which, you pretend to understand, but fail to apply to your original theory.

Vholt+Pussycats=OH MY GOD. I mean do you really consider it strategy to sit there and guess which round they're going to blow their pill supply in? Is that not the EXACT problem that you're trying to fix?