In order to rebalance ELO mode and to make it more interesting, we’ve decided to lift the ban on Wanda and Baby Q (Pussycats) and instead to ban Lyse Teria Cr (Montana), Alec (Rescue) and Zatman (Uppers). These changes will come into effect from Monday May 26th
DerMagus: If they took so much skill to play then why were they being banned every week. I mean how hard is it seriously to not play any pillz and know that your opponent has to play pillz to beat said character? Try playing a pure Freaks deck and winning or play a Freaks/Gheist deck. People don't play decks like this because Uppers were so good same with rescue. This is how most of my higher ELO score battles went against uppers.
Zatman - 0 pillz
Some random from their other 1/2 deck - 0 pillz
Chances are they have taken 6-10 damage and I have used 6-8 pillz.
now pretty much no matter what I play is going to lose. so..
Dorian they use like 5 pillz I take 7 damage
They play whatever other card they have left with enough to win the round
I did this as well. Don't think I haven't played Uppers and rescue. I have played every clan as well as every clan combination. I am willing to bet when they banned DJ Korr and Kiki and many of the other CR's there were complaints and people backing the decision.
As far not discussing it, I have discussed it and proven my point throughly. As far as "n00bs" winning or losing. Normally they lose because they play 6 pillz on zatman vs my 2 or something closely related to that. You can't blame that on lack of skill that is far worse.
@Tanto: Nightmare actually stands a chance vs uppers now. Nobody has really tried Frankie in ELO in a long time. Perhaps before you go saying how bad it is, wait until next week and find out.
Akuaku WMD - Titan
Today at 09:30
One thing about the bans makes me sad: taking Lyse Teria Cr (Cr) out of ELO removes one of the great incentives people had to really play well, trade well, and buy credits. Acquiring her was like the Holy Grail of UR, and now that's gone. Clintz no longer matter once you're past a couple hundred thousand, since they're not going to buy you a card worth playing in ELO. Why amass a fortune just to get a card that you can't even use in competitive play? Better to just spend it all on unleveled Pussycats, I suppose.
Banning her is the right thing to do, objectively, but it still feels like UR is losing a bit of it's soul.
I AGREE WITH THIS 100% VERY WELL SAID! - Montana has now been nulled for competition was my favorite clan to use - and not to say the least i am kinda pissed about it....... zatman sure i understand but lyse teria doesn't make sense theres lot more powerful cards out there then her .....she was a nice add in to a minimal options clan and shes very hard to obtain!!
it comes down to loyalty for urban rivals people who spend or spent alot of money to play and obtain and earned to have her and you just provide a slapp in the face my 2 cents! people who cant afford typically are the children playing the game and its the adults who pay to give you income and keep things going and should deserve to have the glory of having her for the purpose of several things..........
that's what I mean.
their level 3 is better than uppers.
and you can argue that their level 2 card is better than uppers level 2 cards. (compare the damage that they can dealt)
banning zatman will make uppers fall.
why you must play 13 stars that deck only consist of, mostly 5 powers and 6 powers? because of -10?
no, many clan have overcome that -10.
-10 atatck is nothing if you have high power card. (and most of new cards have high power.)
Guys, Cool It!!!
No reason to get all upset and argue about opinions. No one is going to be able to prove their opinion correct because opinions are not facts, thus cannot be proven correct. There are facts to back every opinion, but those in themselves do not prove opinions correct. Just settle down a bit and cool off.
I mean honestly, is it worth getting upset about?
If Uppers gonna fall,play other Clan to get to top100 if u can uh,,, I never play uppers or rescue in elo,i don't like play like evryone else who wanna get easy way to the top >.>
We will see in time what this changes do to the metagame -patience,,,
Wanda : A wall for the the Pussycats, and that's only at level 1 (8 power). Of course, that is offset by abyssmal damage.
Baby Q : She can stop clan bonuses, and is strong, but not TOO strong (6/6 if I'm not mistaken).
Lyse Teria Cr : As a collector, she's the rich man's wall. With 8/4, SOA, and Montana bonus, she was a prime choice in ELO.
Alec : For some reason, I kinda expected this. He has high power, damage, and attack in a mono clan deck (if unchecked).
Zatman : THANK YOU!!! His stats are the same as Lyse Teria Cr and he makes the opponent's attack virtually nonexistant. In other words, you face him in an all Uppers team (something I have been on the wrong side of TOO many times ) you would just lose the will to live.
Magus-- yes, I think that's precisely what he's saying.
I think these bans were an excellent choice. Pussycats now have access to two strong-- but I hardly think banworthy-- characters, which should hopefully make them quite competitive in the next week. I think it's exciting.
I think (IMHO) part of the problem here is that a lot of people have lost subjectivity because they've been playing Uppers/Rescue/Lyse Teria so long. People will always become irate when you take away their most powerful play.
The biggest problem with Zatman, Lyse Teria Cr and *especially* Rescue is that you're allowed a pretty huge margin for error as opposed to your typical ELO deck. The strength of the deck(s) by themselves allowed people to play sloppily, and the bonuses granted from those (banned) cards would bridge the gap between a strong play, and a weak one. It made a bad play almost unpunishable, and a good play unbeatable.
Who wants to play in a format like that?
It limits options for other competitive decks, and fosters a redundant environment. No one wants to play against the same stupidly strong deck over and over, unless you're ALSO playing the same stupidly strong deck.
Such a limited metagame is very unhealthy for any kind of game.
I applaud UR for their choice here. Especially in regards to Lyse Teria Cr, what could be considered a sales-driving money card. Balance and play satisfaction should be greater than appeasing a limited playerbase.
Just my $0.02