In all, I think I love the under dog clans in this game and not so much the most frequently used like the Sao, Puss, and Upp's. I like the Nightmare and Gheist they are sneaky and take allot of cunning and luck to use. I own every card for both clan, doubles of some of the more promenant memebers and i fear to say it but i'd rather use them then allot of the "Vommit" Cards I've seen so far. I am so tired of seeing Grax, Uranus, Venyl, Gabriel, Charlie, all the pussy cats, and all the friggin uppers in every deck, it's enough to give you a head ache, you end up playing the same hand atleast 100 times. I'd rather see innovation and spirit, more calculation in ELO, wonder what ever happened to that idea I had for ELO, Personally in my guild I'm going to implement it. But I don't think you should sell the Nightmare and Ghesit clans short, some of them maye just surprise you in the end.
Heres the thing people keep on moaning about they are sick of this clan or that clan in ELO be more creative they say well i say be more creative in the way you play i swap ELO decks weekly some work some doesnt but i dont moan about people using the same deck and same clans...if it works for you then use it...stop trying to get the other clans cards banned...people that use the under dogs clan like Gheist and Nightmare let me ask you a question....what will happen if they ban all the good cards and all of a sudden Nightmare and Gheist are the best ELO clans what then are you going to say oh no we hate people that use Gheist ar Nightmare...stop contradicting yourselves...
Finga keep it up...elo is elo...ban is a ban...as a veteran elo player....i think what to choose....using gheist-nightmare has no support to each other...
I know you like the'yre abilities..sheitane,kenny,miss twice...how will you defend yourself against lvl 4 yayoi or even lvl 5 charlie?How bout graks and uranus...THERE IS AN OLD SAYING-->"IF YOU CANT BEAT THEM...JOIN THEM"
If you ban Zatman I think there wouldn't be much left of Uppers. Even though their bonus is pretty decent, they still need some cards that have more power than 5 or 6. If you look at the staple Uppers cards you can see what I mean: Samantha and Rubie have both only 5 power and Frankie Hi has 6 power. If you now take into account that All Stars are getting more and more played, Uppers are getting into trouble. If you now take away Zatman, they are nothing but prey because Dorian can't keep it up on his own and Jim can be kinda iffy sometimes.
If Nightmare would be the strongest clan, I would stop playing them. Simple as that. I like my Nightmare in the current (post Tanaereva) environment. I like their bonus and I like the confusion they sometimes cause. It's not unusual that my opponents don't know what to do when I have Ielena and Kenny in my hand. And since I added Dieter I haven't lost to All Stars yet.
Now, if for some reasons Nightmare suddenly emerge as the strongest clan, I would stop using them. I always played "rogue" decks back in Mt:G because I didn't want to be "mainstream". I hate playing what everyone plays, that's why my main clan is Nightmare at the moment.
I never did and probably never will cry for a ban though. Imho rebalancing is the way, but hard to do in a game where ppl spend lots of time and "money" (be it real or virtual) to get what they so desired just to see the stats changed a little later.
Uppers would still have some great cards if zat was banned (sam,rubie,frankie,dorian) but i agree with ibtd, all stars would be powerful
if all clans had a zatman and/or grax-like card, bangers and ulu watu would dominate elo (think of gaia with 1 more power and 1 more minus attack point, wow!)
they should give uppers some 7 power cards that don't have super-powerful abilities (maybe a p:7 d:2 abilityamage plus 2)
I think you do have a point there Finga, and you do have a point about how the whole if they become the best clan thing. An dto the whole banning issue, I think instead of banning certain cards that they should make them collectors instead so that one doesn't always see them around. And as to the All Stars, once they get a few more good cards, they WILL be the dominant clan within Clint City.