We've already told you that we were going to see how things would be going with the secret voting system about possible changes in ELO mode. And that's exactly what we’ve done.
Firstly, we’ve decided to leave the voting system as it is. It works well and should work even better in the future with characters banned thanks to votes.
We've checked voting results and the most frequently played characters in ELO stats.
We've decided to permanently ban 5 characters: Kolos, Marco, Zatman, Hawk and Ratanah.
Kolos is permanently banned because it was obvious that you did not want him in ELO any more. He’s been banned nearly every weeks since the voting system release and we thought it was pointless to keep on using your votes against him.
Marco, Zatman, Hawk and Ratanah have also been frequently banned by your votes so we thought that these permanent bans would offer a fairer game.
Admittedly Ratanah was banned less often than Shakra but we calculated that her ban would greatly help in reducing the Roots' dominance while still making them playable. Whereas Shakra’s ban would have left the Roots with very strong chances of building powerful half-decks for a reasonable amount of stars.
We didn’t want to ban any All Stars or Piranas (Smokey or Striker, for example) even if they were concentrating a large part of votes. We figured out you would be more free to vote and decide by yourselves which characters need to be remove from ELO.
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I don't understand how someone can say to unban GraksmxxT..
Uranus is being banned on some weeks she is FAR LESS powerful than Graksmxxt. GraksmxxT can be used to attack, defend, bluff, block, splash..everything.
Think of how overpowered this half deck is - GraksmxxT, Uranus, Murray, Sigma - for 13*! Combined with All Stars or Nightmare (and if you guys get your way that could be Lamar Cr or Kolos in the deck along with them) you get a hugely overpowered deck that is ELO playable.
Think of GraksmxxT this way.
SoA? No problem, 8 power, and the bonus can win the round for 5 damage.
SoB? Well you're going to be doing 1 - 3 damage and you have 8 power to deal with.
DR? Most DR are played with 1 - 2 pillz and will have 1 damage against him so he'll win the round with 0 - 1 pillz.
An ability that threatens even with low damage? (Hawkins, Gil, Pan etc.) 8 power and the bonus to deal with it and then 5 damage.
Huge power? Well it's going to be 1 - 2 damage and the bonus means they'll have to pill at least once.
Huge damage? Going to be majorly reduced and then the 8 power + bonus means they'll have a tough time winning the round.
Now tell me GraksmxxT should be unbanned in ELO to be used in tandem with Uranus, Murray, Sigma, Jautya etc.
Discussions like this are fun, people throw their oppinion around, that's true, but at least this thread gives people somewhere to talk about this particular topic: previous bannings and should-be bannings, this war won't end until a side get every single person from the other side to listen so just sit back and enjoy the ride .
and you're just starting another war doing this, so right now when no one have taken a side yet, i hope you could forget the idea of closing this thread to end a war( another is likely to break out in the strategy and tactics forum anyways)
The point of the bannings in the 1st place are to get rid of problems that didn't have a way to resolve back in the days, if you have truly found a way to solve the problem of a card such as graks( huge power, moderately signifigant damage and big bonus) then you could THINK of suggesting to unban him, and make sure the resolution is widely adaptable. most perma bans are still a big problem alone or with help so no card is really worth an unbanning
But, a card that is very solid and deadly is Caelus this week.
I think UR must ban him, look, its ability unstoppable.
How many cards stop both ability and bonus? maybe 10, or little more or less?
Caelus is deadly, but no VS Bangers or All Star, but it still, so threatening.
My point, ineloquently put, is why can't their being valid, conflicting positions that don't need to have their mind changed. Like some people I know think Leviatonn is not worth the price he carries on the market, and I disagree. Both feelings are valid because UR is such a subjective experience. Besides people who don't like something need a place to vent out their frustrations once in a while, and it doesn't seem like anybody's being nasty about it yet. I wouldn't care for Grakx being unbanned, but I can completely understand why a sakrohm user would want him unbanned. Why wouldn't they? Heck I'd love to see tanaereva make one appearance in ELO, but it ain't happening. Doesn't mean I can't live the dream in my head (and maybe aloud once or twice). Is all I'm saying
@allknowing comment 212
Erpeto has courage. Eve has 2 less damage. I agree about this clan thing. Both of these cards aren't banned cas they belong to a clan that sucks. Louise is just awesome and underestimated. He even better than charlie.
@ghiest comment 217
'as for Copper (U) his ban is somewhat justified as people can just put him with Piranas to make up for the sentinels just crappy supporting cast' Seriously, I'm going to reply to this with what you said 'cards like Platinum (C) and Spycee (U) batter him by sheer force' What about putting skeelz with piranas aswell. Your reasons just go against each other.
I do agree with banning copper and unbanning hawk.
'Discussions like this are fun, people throw their oppinion around, that's true, but at least this thread gives people somewhere to talk about this particular topic: previous bannings and should-be bannings, this war won't end until a side get every single person from the other side to listen so just sit back and enjoy the ride .
and you're just starting another war doing this, so right now when no one have taken a side yet, i hope you could forget the idea of closing this thread to end a war( another is likely to break out in the strategy and tactics forum anyways)'