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spinalcracker Colossus Working Class Heroes Friday 30/04/2010, 13:13

@tanto - Really? I know the times have changed, but not THAT much. Striker, Leviatonn, Yayoi, graph, elvira, bryan, and shakra when available are all still viable ELO-used cards with SOA that will work against Kolos. The only ones that have been phased out since the Kolos days are Deiter and Otakool. Maybe bringing Kolos back would make a few new cards worth using too, vito, kristin and wendel for instance.

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Ghetto life Senior   Friday 30/04/2010, 17:09

I dont see the point in permantly banning anyone, its just holding people back , in my opinion, it is rubbish!!!!

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Vinyl-Scratch Titan D-Versified Friday 30/04/2010, 17:27

@wicer lol your blind. That excuse can be used for ALL CARDS.

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Vinyl-Scratch Titan D-Versified Friday 30/04/2010, 17:36

'Hawk (R) no matter what unless hit with the Pussycats or Skeelz is going to be an 8/6 soa +8 attack' All stars 6/6. And all the atk manipulation. Then roots and ghiest. He isn't as powerful as that lol, to only be stopped by 2 clans. There are lots more.

'I'd rather face Kolos (R) than Caelus (R). Much easier to shut down. ' So unban kolos and ban caelus.

Thanks uranerd post 190.

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Vinyl-Scratch Titan D-Versified Friday 30/04/2010, 17:39

'Maybe bringing Kolos (R) back would make a few new cards worth using too, Vito (U), Kristin (C) and Wendel (R) for instance.' Thanks spinal. You have a great point.

Also what about a semi banned elo list. You'd only be able to use 1/2 cards from the list and semi op cards are put on the list.

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Tanto89 Titan X. LycurguS .X Friday 30/04/2010, 19:39

Honestly, striker and shakra are almost banned every single week

with elvira you can only play in mono rescue, and that is one soa in one deck

except you want to use bryan, yayoi, leviatonn and graff (2 of them)

that means you only have 4 clans and 6 combination clan to counter kolos
and you cannot guarantee it will come out right?

no one use otakool and dieter except they are desperately in need of soa

about wendel and kristin
there is a big chance you opp move first since they have kolos
which means you cannot use wendel. and not many (if not, no one) use uppers nowadays, they are just too vulnerable (even dorian is not in weekly ban list anymore)
you can use kristin if you win the round, but everyone can see that one coming.

vito, meh, his stats is really bad for level 4 which is not worth.

the problem is, not everyone wants to change their deck so they can win against kolos,
you cannot see when he will come and how many pillz
they can use 1 or 3, 5, 7, 9 pillz etc and you don't know what to do. everyone hate guessing how many pillz their opp put in kolos

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AllKnowingGod Senior Vicious Salvo Friday 30/04/2010, 22:31

I like the banning idea...so everyone doesnt use the same thing...but i think it should be changed to 5 cards a week are banned based on our votes...but those cards can only be banned once a month..that would make things more fun imo

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ibtd Imperator Die Frettchen Saturday 01/05/2010, 00:12

I especially love the "I put 10 pillz instead of just 9+fury on Kolos to counter your big hitter with 71+ attack" play to win matches. I've done that enough times myself and it always surprises opponents who don't have SoA or DRs ready and then they lose of course after taking 10 damage and then not being able to bypass DRs. Doesn't have to be 12 damage to "1HKO" an opponent first turn.

Also, even mighty Uranus still takes 5 damage, and seeing that Kolos could very well come with only 1 or 2 pillz, and you just used your best DR and you are still facing something like a 10 pill Pan... yeah.

But I guess Kolos is not a problem... nope, not at all...

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- Silver Master Open Casket Saturday 01/05/2010, 00:23

Vinyl-Scratch
"Kolos can not 1hko with a damage reducer or soa. With soa he is a weak 7/4. Almost every deck has a soa or a dr or probley both."

You suggested banning Copper, correct?
Well he is just as easily countered by soa or damage reduction.
Actually, he is much easily countered as he is not immune to Roots and Gheist soa.
If Kolos doesn't deserve the ban for his weakness, why would Copper deserve it when is even more susceptible to it?

I do, however, agree that Wee Lee doesn't deserve to be banned.
If he had GraksmxxT level reduction, then yeah. 7/6 with weak reduction isn't overpowered.
If it is, then why isn't Yayoi perma banned?

AllKnowingGod
"...and idk why you guys fear Caelus..."

"...if you are so afraid..stop using your beloved Roots and GHEIST that have no effect on him just bc you guys are afraid of other cards abilities..."

lol Seriously, people start using weak cards like Platinum because Caelus is around.
Personally, I'd rather use someone like Gaia or Nanook who isn't dead weight against non Caelus decks.

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Vinyl-Scratch Titan D-Versified Saturday 01/05/2010, 12:55

'You suggested banning Copper (U), correct?
Well he is just as easily countered by soa or damage reduction.
Actually, he is much easily countered as he is not immune to Roots and GHEIST soa.
If Kolos (R) doesn't deserve the ban for his weakness, why would Copper (U) deserve it when is even more susceptible to it?'
Copper isn't that weak to dr. He still has a beastly power that can defeat many other cards. Why shouldn't copper be banned when marco is banned. Come on they both have a potential 9 power, but copper has 1 more damage AND can be used in half decks. Using copper in half decks makes copper even better than marco. So why isn't copper banned when marco is banned.

'I do, however, agree that Wee Lee (U) doesn't deserve to be banned.
If he had GraksmxxT (R) level reduction, then yeah. 7/6 with weak reduction isn't overpowered.
If it is, then why isn't Yayoi (U) perma banned?'
YAY this is all right