Oh no... Jungo has one "awful" match up against GHEIST (which is actually debatable) so how does that make them bad? GHEIST doesn't match up with Ulu Watu, so should I quit playing GHEIST too? Of all of the GHEIST staples (that aren't ELO banned every week) only a couple some type of attack or power manipulation, meaning Jungo will pretty much be even with GHEIST (maybe even an advantage).
Every clan has a weakness of some type, so it's stupid to base your argument on that.
@sub - I disagree on the first part, but apples are better, especially gala's!
"Of all of the GHEIST staples (that aren't ELO banned every week) only a couple some type of attack or power manipulation, meaning Jungo will pretty much be even with GHEIST (maybe even an advantage)."
Draheera, Toro, Arkn- all staples when they aren't banned. Even Annibal and XU52 get played if the bans are bad.
What's your point?
- Last week was the first in what, 2+ months that Toro wasn't banned
- Draheera is only good in mono decks, and even then, he isn't a staple. Anibal and Methane are both more stable than he is.
- Arkn was one of the cards I had in mind
I'm still waiting on your rebuttal. You are basically saying that because you think that Jungo has a huge weakness to not just GHEIST, but MONO GHEIST, that they are not good in ELO.
Let me quote you in case you forgot:
"What is wrong with Jungo in ELO in one sentence:
Mono Jungo's match up against GHEIST is terrible. "
So based on what you said, GHEIST is also terrible in ELO because they match up poorly with Ulu Watu, right? Roots also beat GHEIST head to head. Freaks are horrible because their bonus is negated by Nightmare and Piranas, so we shouldn't use them either?
You can't base the usefulness of a clan based on their match up with one other clan.
Jungo can't get you that far past 1300 because of how prevalent GHEIST becomes. It's not just a bad match up- it's a terrible match up.
GHEIST has only a few bad match ups and even for instance Ulu Watu, they are maybe no worse than 40% because they can flat out out hit Ulu if the Ulu player gets a low damage hand. GHEIST's damage is so OP that even if they don't have a win out, they can still get to a tie.
I'm not sure who Jungo's good match ups are, since they basically have no one that gets freebie wins. They basically have 1 winning scenario- win 2 + DR. They don't win 3. They don't 2HKO. If they don't get a DR, if they get a low * hand, if they get caught by pill manipulation/ superior power, if they get poisoned, if they blow pills by a bluff, if they get blitzed to 2HKO... they lose. They have 1 way to win and many ways to lose.
They don't have a good SOA to stop pill manipulation and poison. They have good 5* characters, but they don't have the best 5* characters. They are shallow at 4*. They have mediocre 2*.
They need to stretch their 12 pills over 4 rounds without a combat bonus or any pill manipulation.
Scopica, Radek and Mindy are mediocre characters, not great characters.
Look at what Junta and Fang Pi have gotten recently. Jungo used to be far ahead of those two but now they are noticably lagging.
''Jungo can't get you that far past 1300 because of how prevalent GHEIST becomes. It's not just a bad match up- it's a terrible match up. ''
And yet there I was sitting at 1395 ELO with Jungo before I went on holiday. Just stop posting on this thread please your actually annoying. You have no clue what your talking about when it comes to Jungo why don't you go and use them? You'll find they don't need to ''win 2 battles + DR'' lol. Your thoughts about this game seem so basic why don't you go play snap or something.
1. Jungo have a lot of 7 and 8 power cards (most are 2 and 3 stars) that can match up and beat GHEIST pill for pill.
2. How you know who the most common clans are getting past 1300 when your ELO best is only 1315? Is somebody telling you this or is it GHEIST that has prevented you from achieving a higher score?
3. Ulu Watu is a GHEIST killer. GHEIST have pretty poor base power overall while Ulu Watu not only has solid base power, but their ability adds 2 more. You're also acting like Ulu has poor damage... GHEIST does have superior damage, but don't count out Lullabee, Stanly, Buck, etc. plus that 4 damage from Nanook and Gaia will add up quickly if you aren't careful. You've either never played them, or you have not played them correctly.
Well this is MY opinion Piranans own jungo
Since like WMD said this is comparing apples to oranges. Why not compare Piranas to Nightmare? Anywho
Type 2/1 = Jungo
Lets face it Uppers kill Jungo
Piranas Kills uppers
Jungo bouns dosn't really help the clan besides with some cards.
Life is alright but SOB would be my choice thats not because Piranas was my clan to collect
SOS GW@Z! Why I did that was because that things gonna be overused
I'm too lazy to get higher than 1315 but even past 1200 I find Jungo really difficult. They get TO 1200 very quickly though.
It's true I have a lot of difficulty using Ulu Watu. I've tried them extensively but I make way too many errors with them. I like them alot but they are hard to play. Lucia is MURDER vs GHEIST.