2/20

0 Atlas - Wednesday 04/01/2012, 02:44
Veteran

Soa as ability is rare i would not worry about it but there is much i would improve upon this deck, but ill rather show how i would build it, ability soa and ability attack modifier will be problem that but you have very nice 2 hitko potential

First thing you ask why not Raeth ?
-Coleridge can 2hitko with ahkab deadeye ector, apart from this coleridge is pretty damn good card, having another attack manipulator for losing 3 pressure situations is a very bad deal.
Why not Puff ?
-Big smoke no punch, tula is preferred she can be devastating against certain cards. but puff remains a strong alternative
Why not Scubb ?
-Andsom very similar and cost 1 less star also this deck has not much use for odd damage cards, but mainly out due too expensive
Why not Tyd ?
-We don't prepare to get stopped with sob as bonus, but if heavy ability attack manipulator is popular he can be exchanged for deadeye
Why not selma dahlia bloodh ?
-Ahkab offers the the best deal, power and damage with the best ability, paired with great synergy with his clan


5*
Ahkab
4*
Coleridge
3*
Ector
Talijon
Andsom
Deadeye
2*
Tula
Hawkins

This is Piranha 1.0

3/20

Mr Intelijent - Wednesday 04/01/2012, 10:08
Master

0_Fear I am sorry but it is clear you are inexperienced or unable to read.

First thing you ask why not Raeth ?
-Coleridge can 2hitko with Ahkab Deadeye Ector, apart from this Coleridge is pretty damn good card, having another attack manipulator for losing 3 pressure situations is a very bad deal.

Raeth is a 7/5 all the time, Coleridge is a 4/6 or a 8/6 sometimes. Raeth is stronger for up to 8 pills against Coleridge, Raeth also forces the opponent to pill, Coleridge doesn't. You say Coleridge offers 2HKO opportunities. But he doesn't have any cards with 8 damage. Raeth is better in every situation.

Why not Puff ?
-Big smoke no punch, Tula is preferred she can be devastating against certain cards. but Puff remains a strong alternative

They are both in this deck, if you are suggesting he get Hawkins than you obviously didn't look at the preset. Hawkins is just about the same price as the entire deck, he clearly can't afford it or doesn't want to.

Why not Scubb ?
-Andsom very similar and cost 1 less star also this deck has not much use for odd damage cards, but mainly out due too expensive

Andsom doesn't work the same, If he wins he does less damage and even if he does win you can still lose from overpilling, If you use 6 pills on Andsom and the opponent uses 0 you are down 3 pills and did 4 damage, if you use Scubb you are down 2 pills and inflicted 5 damage.

4/20

Mr Intelijent - Wednesday 04/01/2012, 10:14
Master

-We don't prepare to get stopped with sob as bonus, but if heavy ability attack manipulator is popular he can be exchanged for Deadeye

Deadeye has 4 power. Attack Manip kills him, Power Manip kills him, Soa kills him. Tyd can hold his own against all of these. Yet another bad suggestion.

Why not Selma dahlia Bloodh ?
-Ahkab offers the the best deal, power and damage with the best ability, paired with great synergy with his clan

No one uses Bloodth, atleast compare to Dalhia. Dalhia can win a match in one round. Selma has more power and is better against Soa. Overall they are all good but Ahkab isn't the best.


And the biggest mistake you made in requesting clearly worse cards is you didn't even read the first post. Quoted from the original poster "But my main problem with the deck is SOA as ability. It does alot of damage to this deck and I am looking for ideas to improve its defence against it."

He says that Soa is his biggest problem, what do you do? Tell him to get rid of Tyd (His only 8 powered card and strongest card against Soa) and replace him with a 4 powered card against Soa who is weaker in every situation. Tell him to get the worst 5 star in the entire clan against Soa and recommend that he replaces his second strongest card against Soa (Raeth) To a 4/6 against Soa.

None of your suggestions are good and are the exact opposite of what the original poster asked for. Read things better next time.

5/20

0 Atlas - Wednesday 04/01/2012, 12:17
Veteran

Original poster wants to improve his deck against cards that are very rare making himself weaker against anything else since your mono choices are limited. On attack manipulator side i would only worry about jungo and deea and dagg, on heavy mono jungo week a soa half is recommended instead trying to fix this.

All somewhat popular and good soa ability cards, very popular marked with P

2*
none
3*
Leviathon 6/5 P
Rubie 5/6
Elvira 6/4
4*
Elvis P Spyke out
Bogdan P Out this week
Quibik P
Bryan
Glorg
5*
Fuzz

Dahlia is the second choice taking their pills probably more useful than getting some, we lack very high power cards
Deadeye duck below most power manipulator how many "-2 min 4" have you seen ?

Lets assume a situation you 3 pill Ector and win he lost 2 pill first round
Now opponent decide but he knows you can go crazy with coleridge right there 7 pill and fury and he is done but if he is wrong and overpills he lose just the same

6/20

pgm0846 - Wednesday 04/01/2012, 15:27
Imperator - Our last breath

Raeth is beast. Coleridge has never been on the ban list like Raeth is quite often.

7/20

KitsuneKatsumi - Wednesday 04/01/2012, 22:25
Imperator - XiongDang

My mono Piranas team:

http://www.urban-rivals.com/presets/?id_preset=2116340

Dalhia: The best 5* in ELO & so busted that I've realized there actually isn't any bad way to pill her < 8
Scubb: +4 pills is one of the most back breaking abilities in the game
Coleridge: I was skeptical at first but his 6 damage has shown to be ruthless
Tyd: Two reasons: 1~ 8 power and SOB make great characters 2~ SOA is Piranas only weakness
Taljion: It's a fallacy to compare Raeth to Coleridge. You compare Raeth to Taljion, and Taljion is better
Hawkins: In a dead heat with Lehane & Cyb Lhia for best 2* in ELO, and along with Jessie those 4 are by far the only 2* characters in ELO who matter
Puff: If anyone actually uses SOA on him, you should be ecstatic, so he really is wonderful
Tula: Interestingly, most likely the worst Pirana in this group. She will win you some games but 50% or more of the time now she has no good matchups. She is an assassin against 6 power characters & power reducers but these days she misfires more often than ever. But Piranas don't have another 2* that is arguably better

I think Ahkab is interesting now that Ulrich & Bonnie Ld are gone but you wouldn't replace Dalhia. Instead you would probably upgrade Scubb to Ahkab (more damage) & downgrade Coleridge to Deadeye. But it doesn't seem worthwhile, I'd much rather have Coleridge & Scubb.

I find Hawkins Noel ok. He's no good as a #4 pill manipulator but maybe replaces Tula in presets without Scubb.

8/20

E10din - Thursday 05/01/2012, 00:25
Imperator

Fear as someone who uses piranas religiously, and who got both his current elo record and elo survivor record with mono piranas, your suggestions are terrible

Akhab is in fact the worst 5* in elo for piranas
raeth>coleridge
ector good
taljion good
tyd is very strong, whereas both andsom and deadeye are underwhelming at best

the actual "pirana 1.0" would be something along the lines of

selma/dalhia depending on preference
raeth
taljion
ector
tyd
baba
hawkins
puff

now this isn't perfect, mostly because of the ulrich bannings. if you don't like baba, you can switch him to tula, and switch tyd or ector (depending on preference) to coleridge/scubb


on the topic of the OP in for a cheap deck its really solid. to make a cheap alternative to the deck i listed, sub out hawkins for hawkins noel and change the 5* to pesth

9/20

0 Atlas - Thursday 05/01/2012, 03:09
Veteran

KitsuneKatsumi

Not bad but is has too low dmg for my taste
For your deck i would rather put in raeth

Most often piranas get ready to play around with my pills but end up loosing in a single round, they cant stop dr nor have high dmg cards, playing fast against them often the best

10/20

wats_happenin - Thursday 05/01/2012, 12:00
Imperator - Casual Grind

First off lets help this dude....id take adv of piranas great 5* and get rid of kristin (a sub-par 4*)...Dhalia is my fave but Selma does the job just as well

Now their are two choices...Scubb isnt as good as he used to be IMO but in the right situation he's killer. So you can either drop him to a 3* card (Baba is the only real viable choice here) but id drop Tyd/Ector to Hawkins or Hawkins Noel...your choice really

Personally id get rid of Tyd just cause he's a 'need to pill to be good card' whereas Ector is great bluff/ big damager...but Tyd is uber vs SOA

Secondly, 0 Fear come on mate..suggesting Deadeye? Hell id use Andsom/Rhed and Cyan over that piece of crap

'SOA as an ability isnt that common'....fair pt, it really isnt...problem is those 'popular choices' you mention are bloody everywhere...Quibik is the most common sight youll see in ELO

And I think your forgetting to mentions Piranas other major weakness...SOB as an ability and unfortunately this occurance is quite common as well. People are starting to pack 1 SOB, 1 SOA and a few DR"s in every ELO deck they make...piranas are suffering greatly vs this crap!!!