FINAL UPDATE : The list of ELO banned characters will be updated on Monday, December 8st 2014.
This list may be subject to amendment until Friday 5h.
Click here to view the provisional list of characters banned in ELO mode. Summary of the changes below.
The following cards will be permanently added to the list of ELO banned characters:
All Stars : Saki
La Junta : Isatis
Huracan : El Gascaro
Rescue : Dr Norton
Jungo : Buba
Fang Pi Clang : Zhu Tang
The following cards will be permanently removed from the list of characters banned in ELO:
ALL STARS : Striker
The proposals take into account the various ELO-related topics in the community forums. They also take into account the mode’s Top 50 most played cards.
edited by Espectroscuro friday 05/12/2014, 17:56
If you want to "fix" PC ban both Diana and Sera M1 and bring back Clover, or just do a straight ban on Diana or Sera M1.
I can tell you right now that Sera (Who isn't necessarily that good) for Clover will make PC the top clan every week. Triple old and Nuke PC is infuriating to play against, and only rewards poor playing. Sure Sera is a good nuke for round 4, but they can just find another half to nuke for them...
Please reconsider this Clover unbanning...
There's no point in banning sera m1
Diana/ Lucy/ nabrissa/ x will still be rampant and they were a problem before her release
Lucy is the pivotal problem for the clan. She allows the clan to fit the higher star cards and is the reason cheese decks are able to be created. Clovers return is much better to face than Lucy as she has to be a whole star more and limits the overall stars available.
Clover is also a much weaker offensive force, Lucy stops all damage/life/poison clans from doing anything but can also stop clans like rescue from getting the advantage
If you want to stop pussycats ban Lucy
Saki is a good choice, it makes all stars weak to soa now. The half deck will either need to replace her with a lacklustre 3* for the 4/3/3/2 split or a much higher count for 5/4/3/2 making them top heavy and very susceptible to roots
Striker would have allowed for the freedom against soa and given them a lot less hassle. They are also now hit hard by sob again like they once were, nightmare are an imminent problem for them since they now have no counter against them at all
All Stars: All Stars are strong, yes but not to survive exclusively with Striker. I'd say Saki is a bit too overpowered but not Marina. Anyway, ban one of those but I don't really know about the Striker change. It could become even stronger than the current thing.
Sakrohm: Is this a joke? Jautya is countered in so many ways. Blast a SOA, DR into her and she's screwed. If you have attack manip you can easily win the round against her. If you got SOB she'll become a dead 7 power vulnerable to manip. Great nuke with a lot of downsides. Not worth the ban in my opinion.
Jungo: While setting mono jungo on stone and return Askai might be interesting, I'm afraid it won't work well. I'd ban Radek/Rodney/Jean + Ongh and give us back Askai. Askai is stronger than Ongh but he won't have a golden staple backing him up. C'mon I miss playing the rabbit B)
Pussycats: Uhh, hard clan to balance, right? Ban Diana and give us back Clover Noel/Clover. Don't ban Sera M1 please...
I agree with everything else but the return of Lear Barduh (if you keep Jautya) and El Divino. Those guys are crazy overpowered.
Sentinel: Destroy their mono please... Ok, don't destroy just take away John or Martha. They're still strong with Havok and Lehane and all the other fillers.
Skeelz: These guys need some talk :s Xingshu is a problem and everyone knows it by now. Get rid of her or weaken mono Skeelz. If you want to keep a overpowered card, you'll need to work on it's partners.
Well if memory serves me right, Lear Barduh got perma-banned not too long after a month of his release. He's less versatile than Jauyta, making him a whole lot more predictable, and just the thought of a high heal minimum scared players when he was released. I say we give him at least a shot to see if he's really the monster he was hyped up to be 7 months ago.
As for the other clans, I think there is no need to ban Buba as he's just a reliable support card. Jungo don't have craptons of life manipulation so keeping a strong, stable support card won't do any harm.
Also in regards to the Sentinel, they have great damage, power, and attack manipulation. I think putting Lehane back on the list maybe with Martha as well will help cool them down.
Banning marina and saki is ridiculous. It makes all stars not worth playing. Pick one lol! No saki is a reasonable ban, I really don't think Marina deserves the ban. She has normal 4 star stats and she's a dance reducer. But the main thing is her ability isn't conditional.
The reason for bans is
1.To make balance in elo
2.To change the commonly used cards and decks in elo.. (thats what i believe)
And staff... if u care to listen to this i may like to say
1.Banning Sera M1 wont weaken pussycats even to .1% ---(has 3 tops with pussy and never used sera in deck..)
Banning of Lucy weakens... Dianna ban can also weaken i admit..
2.Keep Striker ban Marina..
both cards are in same level..but once that is done ppl will simply replace marina with a nathan..
But it is acceptable..would bring a change
Ban Robb Cr or Saki... not both.... best 3* s AS ever has
3. Saw AAR s thought on FPC. Yes FPC is powerful without that card..but to elininate 50-50 that card should GO
4. Askai can come back instead of Ongh... Both are almost same.we would like to play with ASkai for a change.
If you are really concerned about your excuse about unbanning RobbCr( ie.new players cant afford) unbanning Askai and banning Ongh would be a Good Step
5. Eldivino wont be substituted by Tekkuman lol..i would go Eldivino+Devil Dog if i need an SOA.
6.You are banning Norton.U can bring back Lea if u like,,
For the pussycats trade, I definetaly think it should happen. Pussycats have a variety of 2*s to use in elo such as nabrissa but they only have 1 decent 3* which is noemi and she gets wrecked by stop.op ability.
I also think Ongh should be banned and buba cause they both wipe out their opponents