Hello Urban Rivals players,
During the last week we discussed about how to modify the ELO ban list.
But many players pointed out that more radical changes need to be done.
This is why we want to do a brief survey with you, proposing 3 ways to modify ELO mode in the future. Based on your choice, we will work in that direction only, so your advice is crucial here.
Your task is easy: to select option A, B or C.
Of course, you are welcome to write your opinions in the comments.
Here is a small summary of the 3 propositions:
A) ELO with ‘Points’
Every card will have a point value between 1 and 25. The stronger the card is, the more points it will have.
The points will change every week thanks to an algorithm. It will take many factors into account: how much the card is played, how many times a match is won thanks to that card, and so on.
A deck will have a restriction of maximum 25 stars and maximum 100 points. No doubles, no semi-evolved cards.
This mode will permit every card to be played in competitive matches. You can decide to pick a rather bad card to be able to play stronger cards. Playing a low-point card like Ricardo, for example, could make space to play a high-point card, like Vickie Cr.
The choice of how to balance your deck will be entirely yours, with no cards banned at all.
Everything is free… at a price!
The algorithm will change the value of the top and less used cards every week, so the format will be in a state of constant evolution. Most importantly, it will be the players who will decide these changes, just by playing in this mode!
B) ELO with ‘Banned and Limited cards’
The mode will have a list (to be determined) of banned cards. This list will feature only few characters, the most powerful of the game: Jackie Cr, Graksmxxt, excetera.
In addition to this little list, a new bigger one will be added: a limited list.
Only 1 card among the cards of this second list will be able to be played in your deck. For example, if you include the first card from this list in your deck, you will not be able to add any of the other limited cards.
The players votes will remain, but the cards chosen by you won’t go in the ‘banned cards list’, but in the ‘limited cards list’ for that week.
C) ELO with ‘Banned cards only’ (what we have now)
We will keep a ban list only, more or less similar to the one we have now. Adjustments to it will be done every 3/4 months.
We may try small changes to the deck format (for example, to limit to one the number of lv 5 cards in your deck, or to modify the number of stars in the deck), but nothing too ‘drastic’ like the other two propositions.
edited by ChaosDragon88 thursday 11/02/2016, 16:14
Why voting A ?
Because we have finally something new for Elo, a mode that has been abandoned for a so long time !
This option will bring something really new. I truly believe it's not that bad as it seems. The points themselves are probably not completely efficient, but the fact that they will be regulated automatically is revolutionnary !!
And I know that staff is not stupid. If they go for something completely wrong they will come back. Aren't you curious to see how it will work ? Everybody have suppositions but does someone really know ?
I want changes, I want to TRY. So let's see and we'll know.
Even if B is still a good option.
Because people who don't play the current elo want to play it again with changes
instead they will probably just make it worse
but like the admin said, colliseum first; i hope they realize their mistakes soon
also even if the top players have more balanced decks, with ~20 pts for the best cards, the top players will still be allowed to use a card like Vickie Cr and just slap on any unused 2s dr and call it a day.
100/8 = 12.5
what's stopping me from using any low use dr 12.5 x 2 = 25. since most people will just slap on Spiaghi anyways in dual or dt (if not trying to win) or survivor.
i could just switch over to any dr that is worth less than 3/4 pts assuming Vickie Cr is worth 21/22.
meaning you will still run into at least 1 or 2 elo banned card in top elo and still end up playing 50/50s which fixes nothing
"i could just switch over to any dr that is worth less than 3/4 pts assuming Vickie Cr is worth 21/22."
That's not quite how this system works.
Valuable cards will always have a lot more points than worthless ones... DR with a low point cost is going to be incredibly hard to find from the start. However, let's take Dan as an example, since he's included in the chart Chaos made.
Dan is currently worth only 5 points, and although he is very, very far from solid, he can still knock off 4 damage from your opponent's big card. Let's assume people are using him along with some high-value card, and that this combination is regularly very successful... Our statistics would then show that Dan has a really good win rate compared to his low point value. What happens then? The system adjusts his point value, increasing it until it more closely corresponds with his results.
So, if Dan is being exploited in a "power card/DR" combination successfully, in a week or two, his point value will go up to 6, 7, 8, etc... Until some other sacrifices have to be made in this deck, so the deck becomes weaker.
What's nice about this system is that it gives cards values not based on their star level, or any other arbitrary variable. It gives cards value based on their actual effectiveness in ELO. Over time, this will make the deck building process much more fair and balanced, while giving players a lot of freedom and opportunities for creativity.
Option A sounds good to me, because it brings fresh wind and I dont play ELO a lot as it is right now.
However, if you do it you should cut down ELO Mission. I just finished the missions for Dobbs LD and you wont believe the cards I brought to finish the 20 wins in ELO. Yepp, Halley and stuff.
And before you launch it as a great new thing, finish working on it. Do some exzessive testing, you will find a way and plenty of volunters who want to play the new ELO, even without credit prizes. Also the current ELO mode isnt so bad actually; no need to rush its removal.
You cant learn anything new with out trying new experiences.
if elo dose not change at all it will decay further an die an can no longer be brought back.
think a bout it elo right now is all ways same cards 24/7 even if you banned cards some did not like because it just made it harder for them to win.
at least with option A every one gets a fair chance with there favorite cards an its just for 1 week at a time. so each clan will cycle out fast.
one weak montanas next week sob 3rd week soa. at least it be fair an all clan will get a fair turn in elo.
I am so tired of only seeing the same clan over an over an get told that clan suck's play this one its only one good. its crap you are suppose to be elite players in elo so 50/50 should not bother you for one sec score don't matter if you have to get cards banned to make it easer for you to win. that's not elite that's stacking the deck. some clans are crippled because of this banned crap an no way you can ever win with out 1-2 cards that were staples. are you that week you cant handle it? I remember my best game play was before the banned list. when every one used all the cards an I crush kolos with brinstone now that's a great feeling to win.
option A will show the real elite player's are with the clan's they are good at. with this option all clans will be at the top for 1 week. yes it will star off bumpy but if you work at it it will get better an better like a new born child. stars off bad crying needing the most.