Why is this card not yet permanently banned from elo?
I'm guessing it's because so few people own him and only a percentage of the players who do own him use him in elo so that he doesn't even register as a blip on the staff's radar of what is and is not successful.
But trust me when I say that besting him in any fight is worse than trying to beat an Ambre deck. At least against Ambre, you have rounds in which you are safe to hurt your opponent, but not against John Doom.
Your opponent can pill heavy on rounds they don't have reprisal without having to fear any consequence because even if you can get past his power reduction, you still have to work around his damage reduction.
There are ways of beating him of course, but he trashes so many clans at the moment, especially when paired with clans like All Stars, Bangers, Ulu Watu, and Uppers. No single card should have that power in elo.
Please, ban this card forever!
This is the second post I`ve read about people on John Doom
Here is another post to read:
The topic in question is about John Doom.
If you want my direct opinion, I don`t use John Doom. Rockwall is 5 Star character I would use over him for ELO. The other thing is that John Doom is not ELO banned because he is not directly useful and the odds with using him are that the other characters with him are 2 Stars. You would be unlucky if your opponent drew a 4 Star with John Doom, however ELO restricts space. He is not ELO Banned for the space restrictions, similar to Eyrik.
It should be noted Ambre is banned because Team Courage +3 Power is more unpredictable and when used with some cards, it is unforgiving in long Pillz fights. John Doom on the other hand can be more predictable than Ambre and you can play Protection in the first round. With Ambre, you cannot stop her boost with Protection.
But read the original thread.
Well i have to say that he is broken becouse he outvalues ambre by a lot ambre is 6 extra stats in a 6/4 card while john doom is 8 extra stats into a 7/4 card. And eh counters ambre very badly so i see no reason why she is banned and he isnt when he is her perfect counter. However those protection power and dmg cards realy help out againts him i happen to draw one benicio againts a john doom deck and lets say the fella got very unlucky but who runs Benicio these days . And while desmund is a must in montana elo not many other clans have that good protection power and dmg cards and ambre get counteres by cancel opp power modif and those cards pop up more oftenly so john doom still has advantage over such cards and the only cancel oponent power and dmg are ymirah and pandora and non of them is elo unbanned. So raptors can get zaria and counter ambre but not john doom, which makes me thing that he is some sort of a Raptors nerf in elo they are not the new clan anymore and they are stealing the show from everybody. 8/8 worth of 4 stars when will nightmare get a 8/8 4 star rathen than that 7/7 5 star korse.
Hes not but he dose prove if we nerf all the other leaders they can all be used in elo. but heavy Nerf.
john doom is not hard to beat that an he cant ko with out fury so hes not really op. hes just irritating like a rash that wont go away.