2/8

minti043 - Tuesday 05/05/2020, 22:21
Titan - Maracanaso

Well elo is EFC. And there are greater rewards. You probably know arcade now gives tons of free stuff. atk manip is no longer the king. even though t1 is dominated by lajunta and fast 2hits for the top first place and that is from basicly the beggining of time after the fall of jackie cr. Skeels are a plague upon survivor now, someone went oopsy with the 9 powered cards there. And dominion is bad. soa kills them the mnimum on their bonus kills them at later rounds. sob kills them, I mean there is a reason they are the cheepest clan to collect at the time.
9 powered cards are perma banned everywhere. As for viable strategy in efc or elo. Hard hitting clans that make good life gaps are still the thing to go. ongh just got banned beccause he was dominating the elo ladder, for the past years since he was released. kenny is still scary, although damage reduction is not that good. especally with the new leader called big duke. Now pussycats got no place. They are simply not good at any mode now, so much that thy had to release them again and are called kambooka now . You can put the cards with the old pussycat logo in the dumpster of cards.
cancel power and damage is very needed these days and it goes on very understated cards. The strongest cancel card is granny may, and berserk are kind of like jungo atm. in elo the clans that gap big are top tier. We are trying to get rid of the freaks jungo combo that is why we are banning ongh.
Winning from one round is not viable.

3/8

quexalblaze - Tuesday 05/05/2020, 23:45
Guru - the night stalkers

I meant in one round not at round one. Like you could win 3 rounds and still lose the match.

4/8

minti043 - Wednesday 06/05/2020, 03:48
Titan - Maracanaso

Highly unlikely to lose a match if you win 3 rounds. And most modes banned getting multiple 5 star cards so it is highly unlikely to get 3x 2 star cards. It depends now you have 8 life gapper 2 stars like tanner.

5/8

Spikey 13 - Wednesday 06/05/2020, 04:49
Imperator - The Founding Fathers

Welcome back to the game

A couple of points that I believe. You may see something in them, or might not:

Equalizer is OP sometimes but not always, like most ability types. It's a useful introduction though: it can be used to make drawing low * hand against higher * hands less detrimental

Raptors are useful, maybe too useful to be healthy for the game. I see them as a hard counter: drawing attack manip reliant hands against them is almost an insta-loss. I'm not sure it's healthy promoting insta-loss games. It would be better if they were a mere "check" that shifts the balance slighly, much like Equalizer

Cancel Power/Damage Modif. is indeed extremely powerful, even Protection Power/Damage has become far more important due to the fact power reduction is now so common

I don't know if you'll know after your absence, but now Ld cards are regularly changed to be efc viable but not too strong. More importantly, semi-evo cards are seen more often than ever because these are also often changed by staff to be viable and therefore stimulate the market. Dunno if you've seen the related thread. 2 good ones that come to mind are Mascaranga 4* and Madelone 3*

6/8

MdSpice - Thursday 07/05/2020, 10:48
Colossus - Tsunami

As am i am an old timer, ELO with 12 life game was more fun and quicker. is not even close to me.
this 14 is based a lot how your lower star of your deck will handle the weak curve of your rotation which of course its very difficult than it used to since we raise the lifespan

i would make it 15 life and 30 stars if it was my decision, or left it as ELO at 12 (just like dt mode, was which had more prestige.
must really also change the 2 minute gap and make it 45 seconds or introduce a blitz mode, because EFC is a ver very slow mode and this makes it kinda boring, comparing to all days imho

now DT is the king of fun in the game.
ELO type 2 should started some 5 years ago also

7/8

(( Who )) - Thursday 07/05/2020, 13:39
Colossus - Gilden sind nicht so mein Ding

I think the 14 life games make a lot of sense to increase the strategic depth, though I do miss playing 2hko decks.
Equalizer seems to be balanced alright in most cases, it's just really hard to keep track of all the options, if you are trying to do the math.

Dominion is awful imho. They force you into winning your early rounds, more so than Freaks.
I am really curious about Paradox, though. Gives the game some depth without being too math-intense since there are only two outcomes, not four.

Anyhow, I also noticed that there seems to be a different playstyle necessary from back in the day, but I can't quite put my finger on it. Would be very interested in any findings!

8/8

quexalblaze - Thursday 07/05/2020, 20:19
Guru - the night stalkers

To respond to Mintio43: As an example: The freak ld turn 1. Then a mix of damage reducers or cards with defeat regen or life and it's a easy gg if they keep pill gap high enough or have cards that manipulate attk or power forcing you to pill and not have enough to fury your way through.

To respond to Lupo: Yes, considering most clans are built to win it in 2 it can be very frustrating. Also the time being the way it is makes making mistakes less likely, and gives you time to calculate, with equalizer and other manips at play that is a good thing. However with no pressure some matchups are easy to manipulate because you can think for quite a while. Less time to respond on the front end with increases during the later rounds or vice versa might be interesting. Thinking quick on your feet is a skill as well, but manip clans might become inherently too good because of that.

To respond to who: Dominion are easily broken due to that fact. With respect to the time discussed in lupos response, your opponent had plenty of time to determine what your win condition is and can respond accordingly to your major plays if you play them early. Or crush them on the back end by anticipating bluffs from less threats. Super OP (my opinion) unless you have SOB or power negation you have to play a certain way within the matchup and can be edged out easily. Which brings the conversation full circle to certain abilities not passed around enough in the respective clans at multiple star tiers.