The UR community seems to have a lot of questions about RB cards. What role will they ultimately play in the game? Will RB always be very rare and expensive? Why were these things implemented in such a manner? Here, we will try to answer all of these questions and more.
Q: What is an RB card?
A: RB stands for ""Rebirth."" They are rare versions of existing cards with the same stats, but alternate art and a blue nameplate to differentiate their status.
Q: The first RB card was really hard to get, and it's very expensive! Are they all going to be like that?
A: In a word, no. RB cards will have varying availability.
Q: I want some RB cards. How can I get them?
A: Each RB card will have a unique way of being awarded. Some will be given as rewards to top achievers in certain modes, others may drop at a low rate from packs. Generally speaking, they will be released in a very limited way, but additional RB cards may be produced at times.
Q: The Leader Wars event in which Nanook RB was made available was very expensive! Will other events that award RB cards be priced similarly?
A: We are considering lowering the prices for many of these events. We have been paying special attention to community feedback regarding this matter.
Q: Will RB cards do anything special?
A: Collecting 100% of normal cards and all RB cards will grant a special new ranking, Phoenix. This rank is higher than Colossus and lower than Divinity.
Q: Why did Boostr decide to introduce such rare items into a game that's supposed to be free to play? They are very difficult to get for an ordinary player. Is it fair?
A: Every online game needs end-game content. Players who have met many of the big goals that UR has to offer will appreciate having another very challenging goal to aim for. This will also forge new relationships between skilled players who are able to win these cards through special events, and superstar collectors. Meanwhile, RB cards don't take anything away from a typical player, as the regular versions of these cards are still readily available at their normal price, and it's possible to enjoy the great new art on these cards without having them in your collection. You can compare them to a foil version of a card in a physical card game.
The announcement was regarding three different things: An RB in Leader wars, an RB in card packs, and Nanook RB available if special conditions were met. All of these things are part of the Valentine's Week event.
It's fine to ask for clarification on something or bring up a concern (especially if you feel your concern is shared by other members of the UR community.) In fact, I encourage that sort of thing. That helps us to improve the game.
Just make sure that you are communicating in a polite and respectful manner. As a mod, you have some degree of responsibility for the tone of this community. People look up to you as a respected player and someone that cares about the future of this game, and they will follow your example. I hope you (and every other EN mod) can take the opportunity to set a good example for our players, and show them that it's possible to disagree or bring up concerns respectfully and politely.
take the feedback we are giving
the announcement was NOT clear
in the future -- improve the announcement. thats all there is to it.
and add that to my feedback of making advanced announcements for timezone affected events
its ok to publicly say, something UR did could have been done better, and we will improve on it next time.
but the announcement was not a good one.
i posted the question 3 times.... and it took a reference to the french forum for us to receive certainty.
a player found it and shared it
KillerX should not have needed to hunt that information out.
You saw the question at least twice, but did not confirm (either way) until KillerX and an admin confirmed it
I get it, ghelas there is also a communication challenge between you and UR office since you are off site. But there is no need to explain away or rationalize oversights, especially minor ones. Just acknowledge it, then move along. Trying to explain it away and expecting generally intelligent individuals to accept it is a bit too paternal and doesnt come across well.
I advocated for the EN community as much as I can. There has always been a conception that FR community gets more (and i get that too, they are probably a greater source of revenue for Boostr) and there is truth behind that conception. As EN mods and EN admins, lets reduce or eliminate this gap.
Put yourself in the shoes of a new player who checks out these forums and sees a mod saying "oh the french have information that we don't..." What conclusions might this player come to? Do you think it would be obvious to him that these problems are caused by the inherent difficulties of communicating to an international audience rather than neglect? I don't. So here, we have a different communication problem.
Your concerns have been noted, so now I hope you will note mine. You are a representative of this community and a role-model within it, and I expect for your public communications to reflect that status.
If I didn't suffer two concussions in the past month, I'd probably be able to come up with a more eloquent post about how the french community only gives a crap about the french community and how the french admins basically hand them free cr's and Rb's in an attempt to milk them for every last dollar, but sadly, concussions are a pain in the head.
Wasteroftime actually hit the nail on the head pretty beautifully with this one. From what I've read on the forums, the french community has seemingly been the major beneficiary of quite a lot of past updates (things like dounia, to certain mistranslations, to even this event which "started" at 6:00AM EST/3:00AMPST). You can try to push it aside ghelas, and get people to put a more positive spin on it (like what I've been doing whilst waiting for that Nanook Rb I should be receiving in that event sometime soon), but ultimately that is a pretty arduous task with little (if no) reward at the end of it. The english community needs to be treated as an equal entity to the french one, and needs stuff like this catered to us. Otherwise, the ENG community will just give up/leave and the game'll sink even further down the hole.
Waster and I have the same goals, but a slightly different perspective.
I work with the people responsible for nearly every aspect of UR on a daily basis. I see the difficulties in communicating with an international community and across different time zones first-hand. I'm very, very interested in seeing all communities treated fairly and equally. If there was an issue of deliberate neglect of the EN community, I would be the first to speak out against it and to make every change in my power to remedy them. But I'm not seeing any deliberate neglect.
Speaking purely as a player for a second, both the quality and quantity of communication with the EN community has improved dramatically over the last few years, but unfortunately, this is seldom acknowledged. Difficult cases such as Dounia Cr have been misinterpreted completely: I often see her sited as a "French exclusive," while in reality, she was originally meant to be a promotional card for the Urban Rivals manga before some conflicting player reception turned her into the controversial card that she is today. As a result of the ways players regard such events, the global UR community grows ever more divided.
We have some EN players who feel they are competing with the FR community for attention, casual players who feel that all levels of rewards in the game should be accessible to them, elite players who feel that the highest tier rewards should only be claimed by someone who is extremely skilled... And a lot of needless enmity.
We talk a lot about growing the EN community, but I think that one of the most necessary things is for these rifts to go away. They should certainly not be promoted by moderators or reputable players. I'm very happy to talk to any player regarding any concern that they have and shed light on the work that's being done by Boostr to grow this game, and the challenges therein. I am more than happy to bring any good suggestion to the attention of the people behind the design of the game. There is absolutely no reason to discuss any of these things in a manner that is not respectful to the wonderful team that puts countless hours into ensuring we can all continue to enjoy this game.
You didn't answer my question again Ghelas; I'm feeling ignored and unwanted here
Can you provide an explaination as to why much of Boostr's recent actions seemed geared towards creating a small supply of super-expensive, hyped-up cards? This is not a complaint nor a call for change, but merely an inquiry from a curious player.
@OPG: Oops, sorry! I thought I worked in an answer somewhere. It's hard to say where RB cards will settle down in terms of price, especially on an individual level. They are certainly super-hyped, but I would hesitate to say that they're all going to be super-expensive. The few that are, are going to be of particular interest to die-hard collectors. They create intrigue for a group of players within this game without harming any other group, as explained in the FAQ.
i gave you an answer mate, i doubt ghelas can provide you with one that will satisfy you either. it seems to me you have an answer in mind that you want UR to say
Dounia Cr.... its not the Cring that gave the FR community advantage. Not at all. It was her release as a free card that created that problem. And that was pseudo-exculsive for the FR community for sure. In my opinion, it was a mistake by UR to do it that way. Lets call it what it is. To say that it was player misinterpretation suggest that the responsibility lies with the players.
from what i recall... there was some quiz we had to take by clicking a link (from the french forums)... then we had to answer questions from the french manga... and if you got like 4 questions right, you won a free Dounia! It was all in french!
then it got Crd some time after
That is what happened. It can only be avoided in the future if we acknowledge it as what it was... a potentially free card for all, if you had the info... and who had the info?
So the controversy is about the fact that that the info was available first to people who purchased the manga, a very nice initiative that probably could have been conducted a little bit better. As far as I know, players from non-French communities who attempted to claim the card were not denied the right to do so. And now, this relatively small event is being held up by the EN community as some "proof" that Urban Rivals has a worrisome amount of favoritism.
We talk a lot about what's best for the community, so we should all be doing what's best for it. There are definitely instances in which mistakes have been made, but also many instances in which things have improved, and countless instances in which wonderful free content has been delivered to all players in an absolutely equal way. If we want the EN community to grow, we have to make it welcoming for new players, and an undue focus on a relatively minor incident that took place 6 months ago is not conductive to that.
Ok so it was a mistake, and yes it was fairly minor, CRing it ,on top of that, on the other hand is not is the best judgment imho.
the quiz it was ALL in french, a leak was needed, NONE of those should have been required
no ghelas there is no favouritism, because that is a conscious decision to favour a certain group. that would be an overstatement and no UR does not do that
what happens are accidental oversights, a couple of minor ones recently, let us not deny them - because we cant fix it if they never happened. we can only acknowledge them and minimize in the future.
anyway. at this point i will just be waiting for the pudding... i imagine i will get hungry for it in a couple of months