The list of ELO banned characters will be updated on Monday 01/02/2016
This list may be subject to amendment until Friday 29th.
The following cards will be permanently added to the list of ELO banned characters:
Frozn – Tiwi Ld
La Junta – Raven
Montana – Spiaghi
Piranas – Parmabarb
Pussycats - Leela
Raptors – Impera Sloane
Rescue - Phoebe
Ulu Watu - Wee lee
The following cards will be permanently removed from the list of characters banned in ELO:
La Junta – Pilzken
Montana – Moses
Piranas – Smokey Cr
Rescue - Sledg
Ulu Watu - Daddy Jones
edited by ChaosDragon88 friday 29/01/2016, 18:28
Frozn – Lowki (up to discussion) - I don't have an opinion on this, since I haven't seen the new Frozn cards be effective yet. I run a half with Lowki, Elenore, Nuvanik, and Tiwi LD, which I like alot, but I don't think it is super OP. It is just strong on some weeks.
La Junta – Raven (up to discussion) yeah, this should have happened last time tbh. The swap is great.
Montana – Spiaghi (definitive) ok. Im guessing this is happening because waller, dr lyse, mona, spaghai is too strong. I'm not sure I can agree with this.
Piranas – Parmabarb (definitive)
Pussycats - Leela (up to discussion)
Raptors – Impera Sloane (up to discussion) Yeah, I think this card is a "problem" card, because what can gheist or even roots really do agains this combo? same with SOB clans, it is really hard to pill against, and nullifies almost all of raptor's weaknesses (in theory)
Rescue - Phoebe (definitive) ill keep my opinion to myself for this one,.
GHEIST: XU52 (up to discussion) - yes, as i explained in the previous post.
Huracan - Zapatino (up to discussion) prefer el gascaro unban
Junkz - Fuzz (up to discussion)
La Junta – Pilzken (up to discussion)
Montana – Moses (up to discussion) yeah, with spagahi gone it could be ok.
Piranas – Smokey Cr (up to discussion) yeah, absolutely. Hypotyhetically this will make mono piranas slightly stronger, which is a good thing, since it is not really too viable right now unless during very specific weeks.
Rescue - Sledg!!!
Sentinel - Sammy yes.
Cyb Lhia is a much bigger threat than Rahi Sledon.
- 2 stars so easy auto include and goes in every deck
- makes a difference of up to a potential 7 if played round 1
- 8 power, which is a rarity in Vortex, really makes her winning easily
- her only weakness is SoA, and lets be honest most decks don't run enough SoA to deal with it
- 5 stars making him top end and hard to fit in. Dregn and Shakarti are both equal, if not better options, not to mention X-0DUS and Dagg are such great 4 stars that fitting in more 5 stars leaves little room for him.
- Rahi Sledon have more weaknesses and counter-play, DR, attack manipulators, high power. None of these can deal with Cyb Lhia because 8 power is huge.
People complain and say that Rahi Sledon, but all 5 star vortex champs have high damage and impact, Dregn is essentially an 8/8 and Shakarati is a 7/7 with conditional stop bonus. Rahi Sledon is not the problem here. Cyb Lhia will see play in every single Vortex deck. By banning Cyb Lhia we are opening up room for creativity as it forces players to pick from others good, but not broken 2 stars. Oh the other hand, unbanning Rahi Sledon will also make Vortex deck more versatile. It gives you more 5 star choice, that isn't strictly better than the other options. The switch will open up the Vortex meta and the anti-vortex meta. Vortex now have more options to choose from, and countering Vortex doesn't require you to run a SoA heavy deck anymore.
I think cards like Guru Cr and GraksmxxT deserve a comeback as there a cards like Flanagan roaming free !!!! While we are at it you might aswell ban Randall or atleast bring Lyse Cr back so there is some justice :/
P.S.: DONT BAN SPIAGHI xD Montana is in a totally fine state and does not really need those changes
How about actually bringing up reasons instead of just talking about someone's rating? The swap of Cyb Lhia for Rahi Sledon doesn't make the Vortex stronger, it makes them weaker. Also, reintroducing Rahi Sledon won't make vortex decks 5050, because they still have amazing 2 drops in c-wing and vektor as well solid 4 drops such as Dagg, X-0DUS, and C-Dusk. So, if you disagree, instead of being rude and discrimination due to my elo at least give me a reason to try and persuade me otherwise. Just because I have low elo doesn't mean I'm stupid and can't understand logic.
Look I understand that you're better players and thus your input is worth more than mine, but going and reading the previous posts no one has made a definitive argument why the swap is bad. It has all been attributed to high damage. I'm not saying take my opinion and like it, I'm saying tell me why it's wrong, because I don't see the problem.