The people have already forgotten the disasters caused by the arrival of
Dashra and are all set to celebrate Christmas! Yet not quite all of
Clint City Welcomes:
Onnah, the Frozn’s glacial spirit!
Pr Hide, the Riot who hated Christmas!
Kurt, the Bangers thief!
Kylorenne, the Hive’s battle reindeer!
edited by HD_BossKilla7 friday 23/12/2016, 11:28
I can think of two reasons why Onnah has confidence.
1. 10/4 SoA 2 star is a freaken beast that should never exist without using Leaders... Much less one that shares a clan with Ymirah .
2. Haaken already exists and staff don't want to completely obsolete him yet.
@prince - Look at all the other 2* cards with SoA in UR:
Cardigan - (Rare) Only 2 DMG and 6 base PWR, so weak to ATK Manip = Virtual 8/2
Cesare - (Common) Same as Cardigan, but only 1 DMG = Virtual 8/1
Graff - (Rare) See Cardigan, the only difference is he's a bit stronger verses ATK Manip = Virtual 8/2
Jean - (Rare) - Only 1 Base DMG = Virtual 8/3
Angelo (Rare) - Only 2 DMG, doesn't hit his Min without a pill, and only 6 Base PWR = 6/2 + ATK Manip
Spycee - (Uncommon) Trash (sorry, lol)
Harmonia - (Common) Conditional, and only Base 7/2 with pillz back after = 7/2 Conditional + 1 Pill Back
Oxo - (Uncommon) - The gold star for 2* SoA, only 6 base PWR, but 3 DMG and can old = 6/3 + ATK Manip
Liam - (Common) - Trash (sorry, lol)
Wendel - (Rare) - Only 6 Base PWR and 2 DMG, Conditional, but can old
Onnah - (Uncommon) - 8/2 with SoA, or 10/4 without it.
If you made her unconditional, she would be a potential 10/4 with SoA, 2-4 PWR and 1-3 DMG higher than every other usable 2* SoA in the entire game, of which almost all of those you see above are Rare cards, while Onnah is only an Uncommon.
Without her bonus, she is already on par with Graff and Cardigan (both Rares), but she also has the ability to become a 10/4.
...and you want her to be Unconditional?
Sorry, the Admins made the right choice here. Even on her weakest round (R1), she almost outclasses 2 other clans' Rares with the same Unconditional Ability of SoA. To even have a 2* with SoA is a huge thing.
edited by Xonia saturday 24/12/2016, 11:39
Well,thanks for your answer.Nice research.
But I disagree.
All the other cards you mention have reliable bonus.
Frozn clan have the most unstable bonus and they need to have stable ability.
And that is my opinion.Thank you.
Where are the profile boxes we've been promised ? no new one this week, hive doesn't have one yet, so why not surprise us with something surprising ? not just plain mission rewards...clint, token, credit, clint, token, credit...life isn't all just clintz, tokens and credits you know.
yet frozen has the most powerful cards i seen in this game. Ymirah for example with there bonus for that clan you can 2 hit ko a lot an rather easy.
placed with john doom with frozn pick your times an easy wins.
this new frozn 2* is got to be the most powerful 2* in a long time.
@prince - I have an entire video on the Frozn clan up on YouTube. You can watch it if you'd like a more in-depth look at their bonus, but they actually only need it once. Frozn have some of the highest base stats in the game because their bonus is only meant to be used once, and their cards must be able to hold up without it on the other 3 rounds.
The reason you're saying it needs to be stable is actually the exact opposite - it's the reason it shouldn't be. A "stable" bonus would require a reduction in base PWR her 8/2 Base is equal to Graff and Cardigan's after their bonus, but Graff and Cardigan will only be 6 PWR vs. Nightmare or Piranas (or an all-stop), while Onnah will still be 8/2. Her "unstable" bonus actually forces UR to give her more stable stats. Yodd is highly considered to be one of the best 2* cards in the clan (since Tormentah's banned), and his Ability is nothing but protection. 10/4 is monstrous on a 2*, and is even better than a card like Chan (10/3 after Ability and Bonus), who needs both to hit those stats, while Onnah only needs her Bonus to outclass him (another Rare). Sandro, a 3 card, is 10/4, and requires a Mono deck for those stats and an entire extra star. while Onnah can be half-decked and is 1 less star, only requiring Revenge - the 2nd best Conditional, and rarely considered a downside in most cards.
If you want her to be unconditional, she'd probably have to be something like 7/1 to have straight-up SoA. Haaken is a Rare 3* with straight up SoA, and only 7/3.
Her unconditional nature allows her the same perk that Aaron, a highly undervalued 5* Frozn card, has. The Ability to have 2 different card forms, making her extremely deadly with either, and very difficult for any card to be able to deal with both. How many cards are good against both a 10/4 and a 8/2 with SoA? Not a whole lot. Her strength comes in her variability. Having a split Ability and Bonus is not a bad thing in Frozn. It makes them more resistant to SoA and SoB, two of the most dominant powers in the game.
Also, it's hard for me to believe you have trouble with Frozn in ELO, because they are played at the highest level in ELO, and have been for awhile, because they are so dominant. They are one of the few clans that isn't broken if they lose their Ability or Bonus, making them more stable than any other clan in the game, due to their high Base PWR and DMG. Are you just trying to fit in too many high-star cards? Are you running them mono, or a half deck?
A half-deck of Yodd, Lowki, Mahimatah (or T-We-1) & Stompah looks pretty scary, to me. They've got some killer choices even outside their ELO-banned cards (Tormentah, Tiwi Ld, Ruru, Kalindra Cr), and don't even need a 5* to dominate. I encourage you to give them another shot!
edited by Xonia sunday 25/12/2016, 09:53
The new cards are great. happy hollidays to all. i hated the 4 star vermin N for the bangers 4 star dmg reduction, although 7 dmg on a dmg reduction card makes him a bigger threat, but i hate semi evos anyway. Riots got a descent replacement for Fastbender. Fastbender was stable card but the clan had too many conditional cards and unconditional 2 pills is nice. The hive card seing him at last spot i realy thought he was a rare but he is common. I Doubt his condition will be met as frequently as shizala's but it kind of now puts hive as the kings of t2 considering most new players play 40* decks but hive realy got a nice t2 presets. To be new played by new players they could use some 4 star or a 5 star blocker. and Frozen had only one soa that is haaken and realy any other soa would be nice for them considering a frozn mirror match would get out of control will all those power houses. Confidance is much harder ability to play though it could be used to enshure no +life per dmg card sneaks after your big hit but 2 lost turns can mean a loss. She is powerfull but not as powerfull as people think and the truth is she has no other competition since frozn have only one and they kind of need more.