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Piradeux - Saturday 20/04/2019, 09:47
Colossus - Wise Men Distracted

Doing that made it worse, haha! GHEIST and GhosTown have 1/5 of their clans banned and Roots are nearly right there with them. Freaks, Huracan and Pussycats being at or above 15% seems just as unhealthy but I honestly understand why.

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Spikey 13 - Saturday 20/04/2019, 22:46
Imperator - The Founding Fathers

Here's a pertinent question which may nterest those in comments then.
If you could unban ONE card from each clan what would they be? HEALTH WARNING: I'm NOT saying all the following should be unbanned. I'm saying these are the moost marginal on the banlist for each clan in my mind
Hans Spinner
Joy
Silvano
Bugamon
Zhu Tang
Wonald
Drak
Arkn
Burton
Raam
Mama Killa
Ginnifer
Fuzz
Isatis
Mr Big Duke
Moses
Cutey
Lagertha
Sera M1
Wilkinson
Cliff
Pr Priest
Flora
Oxo
#ZRobbie
Sopiket
Skipper
Joan Cena
C-Arib

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Rowdy MOB Cr - Friday 26/04/2019, 08:41
Colossus - Masters of Battle

Never really got to your list. Here are my personal opinions.
If I have nothing to say, I think they should stay in the ban list.
If I say something, it is for insight.

Hans Spinner
Power reduction and a low minimum for his attack reducer. In addition the 5-5 stats are good and a great splash card. However I think Meta-wise, with cards such as Mulligan, All Stars should be fine.

Bugamon
-Good stats for a 2 Star Card. Against SOA, he is already on par with Beck - Nena. Should stay banned to give SOA decks a chance. Cannot be too extreme against them.

Zhu Tang
- Debatable. While Pussycats, Nightmare, #Ryujin, Choko or the like stop him, I still think his power and Life manipulation of potentially 4 can make him comparable to Khann. Think he should be unbanned.

Burton
- Debatable. Was there not a mission to inflict 150 Poison Damages with him or something... I must be losing track. 4 is not a high minimum, but when comparing to Hachi or Mildred who are banned, being similar to them might contribute to his ban.

Raam
-Comparable to Hydraereva who is banned.

Fuzz
-Lou is not banned, either Junkz is a weak Clan, Roots are too strong or Fuzz should be unbanned.

Mr Big Duke
-His urban might have implications towards Pussycats in EFC.

Moses
-Not sure why he is banned. Is it because he has 1 more power than Veccio?

Cutey
-Similar to Zhu Tang. I do not care whether she is banned or unbanned. Maybe 4 Damage for a +1 Life per damage 3 star card is a big deal.

Lagertha
-Bruno is banned, Zlabal is banned. She is one power higher than Bruno and one less than Zlabal.

Sera M1
- -16 Attack on the last turn with 7 Power, 7 Damage is tough. Could be unbanned in my opinion.

Wilkinson
-9/4 Staff mentioned brining him back depending on Raptors performance. He has stats comparable to Pandora and sadly makes Oda Helpah seem somewhat weaker with her low base power.

Pr Priest
-8/7 Wasn't he supposed to be Riots big initially but failed. Staff intended to ban him from ELO at the start.

Oxo
-6/3 Somehow better than Ludwig and meta defining staple 2* for Sakrohm decks.

#ZRobbie
-7/2 Wonder if Statam is a good card or needs to be kept in check. #Z Robbie might be banned to prevent Sentinel from having powerful low star alternatives... Dunno really.

Sopiket
-13 Power in Round 4 and 10 Power in Round 10. Not sure if 13 Base Power is considered oppressive in EFC.

Skipper
- 9 Power. Already dangerous without his ability.

Joan Cena
- Somehow you can use Al Safra -20 Attack, Min 3, but not Joan Cena. Maybe power exchange go hand in hand with -10 Opp. Attack, Min 3.
Say you use a 7 power card.

Joan Cena vs Choko
3 Pillz vs 6 Pillz
28 Attack vs 35-10 Attack = 25 Attack.

Not a friendly situation since typical cards in EFC have 7 Power.

What could be worse.
Joan Cena vs Lena
3 Pillz vs 7 Pillz
32 Attack vs 40-10 Attack = 30 Attack.

The 2 together can limit deck building and define it sometimes.

edited by Rowdy MOB Cr friday 26/04/2019, 08:41

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0- JP - Friday 26/04/2019, 09:42
Colossus - † OVER KILL †

Pr Priest
-8/7 Wasn't he supposed to be Riots big initially but failed. Staff intended to ban him from ELO at the start.

- Then why make the card at all?!

When it comes to Power and Damage exchange, does the exchange include the ability or bonus improvement; Like card with power 1 ability power plus 8, opponent has power exchange, Will the opponent be 1 power and mine be the opponents plus my ability?

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Rowdy MOB Cr - Friday 26/04/2019, 16:36
Colossus - Masters of Battle

Insight:
Pandora was released in Halloween as a card to be banned immediately by staff for ELO (There was no EFC back then). She was intended to be a powerful card for sure.

A few months after Pandora`s release, Staff released Pr Priest with the intent of making a powerful card. They did mention something about banning him since he was made similarly to Pandora, however it should be noted that Power and Damage Exchange did not exist at the time nor did Dominion, so a card such as him can be intimidating to the cards at the time.

However while Clint City News on an page mentioned about Pr Priest being the initial Riots big, the results were not what staff expected at the time and he is hardly impressive.

While Pr Priest was great, he was not exactly big material if compared to the likes of #DJ Korr Cr, McLain etc. His ability was good, but his bonus hinders him and somehow became overshadowed by cards such as Roderick, #Behemoth, Zaveli who were released a year later after Pr Priest and clearly stronger than him.


Exchange Mechanics:
E.g.
Sopiket vs Bruno
1 Base Power vs 4 Base Power.
Becomes
4 Base Power vs 1 Base Power

Say Sopiket is played in Round 4.
It has 16 Power while Bruno only has 1 Power.
Exchange is basically giving the enemy: Copy Opp. (Power/Damage) while having the ability yourself.

Exchange does not work against Cancel Opp. Modifiers just as a note.

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ELSANDUNGUERO - Friday 26/04/2019, 16:59
Colossus - E X C A L I B U R

Zhu Tang and Cutey MUST stay banned, they can do potential 12 life gap and that is not healthy for the meta. Imagine a hand with Cutey, Dj Korps semievo and Incubus, you could win the match with full Cutey on r3-r4 turning the match in a 50-50 from r0. I don't remember any card from the current meta with such a big life cap and no condition at only 2*-3*.

Moses would make mono Montana too strong, should stay banned.

The thing with Fuzz as opposite from Lou and XU52 is he should stay banned. First because his ABILITY is soa, that's much stronger vs sob clans that rely on their ability to win the round or create big life gap, second because he is in a clan with easy round winners and a lot of pill manip cards. It is much easier to win a round with Tremorh, Timanov, Space Hans Ld, #Romana, etc. than winning with Rico, Kalumet, Fudge or Krazan Ld and 8 damage is almost sure that you can win the round with any other card and win the match

I could maybe understand Sera M1 out of the cards you mentioned

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Rowdy MOB Cr - Saturday 27/04/2019, 08:39
Colossus - Masters of Battle

Give me a moment to update it.

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Rowdy MOB Cr - Saturday 27/04/2019, 08:45
Colossus - Masters of Battle

Fun fact:

Did you know that Roots have the most bans in EFC (ELO Fighting Championships or whatever you want to call it).

They have 14 Bans followed by GHEIST with 13 and a tie with Leader and Pussycats with 11 bans.

Arguably Leader can be taken to consideration with 11 bans, but a Survey is being done to assess them.

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Rowdy MOB Cr - Monday 06/05/2019, 19:50
Colossus - Masters of Battle

Updated. It seems the Jungo are an area of concern.

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Rowdy MOB Cr - Wednesday 15/05/2019, 04:12
Colossus - Masters of Battle

The list will be updated.